Quarterbacks (3)
Running Backs (4)
Fullback (1)
Wide Receivers (5)
Tight Ends (4)
- Ross Dwelley
- George Kittle
- Charlie Woerner
- Tyler Kroft
Offensive Linemen (10)
- Aaron Banks
- Jake Brendel
- Daniel Brunskill
- Spencer Burford*
- Mike McGlinchey
- Colton McKivitz
- Jaylon Moore
- Trent Williams
- Nick Zakelj*
- Blake Hance
Defensive Linemen (10)
- Arik Armstead
- Nick Bosa
- Samson Ebukam
- Kevin Givens
- Kerry Hyder Jr.
- Drake Jackson*
- Javon Kinlaw
- Charles Omenihu
- Hassan Ridgeway
- Jordan Willis
Linebackers (5)
Defensive Backs (8)
- Talanoa Hufanga
- Deommodore Lenoir
- Tarvarius Moore
- Emmanuel Moseley
- George Odum
- Ambry Thomas
- Charvarius Ward
- Samuel Womack*
Specialists (3)
Practice Squad (13)
DL Alex Barrett
S Tashaun Gipson Sr.
OL Alfredo Gutierrez*
S Tayler Hawkins
CB Qwuantrezz Knight
WR Tay Martin
LB Marcelino McCrary-Ball
OL Jason Poe
WR Willie Snead IV
DL Akeem Spence
OL Keaton Sutherland
DL Kemoko Turay
WR Malik Turner
I figured they'd want to bring back Robinson next year. He goes to IR with Ward. That means Kroft and Willis return to the roster under the wink, wink rule.
ReplyDeleteIt's an interesting roster construction, but one thing I have learned is the initial 53 often isn't the 53 by the time week 1 comes around.
ReplyDeleteWe already know Jimmie Ward and Curtis Robinson are going on IR, with Willis and Kroft to rejoin the team. With Ward going to IR I wouldn't be surprised to see a safety added (say, Tartt). And I suspect one of the RBs will be cut just prior to week 1 with the hope they can get him through waivers if it is done after initial cuts.
Zakelj making the roster is roster politics at work. No way he outperformed Poe, but he is the draft pick, Poe isn't. Despite Poe mostly impressing, he is probably a pretty safe guy to sneak through to the PS.
ReplyDeleteNot so fast. I thought Zakelj was on an upward trajectory towards the end, while Poe kind of peaked. Not to mention Poe can only play guard.
DeletePlus I believe Zakelj would have gotten scooped up. I think Poe will make it to the practice squad.
DeleteAdam Peters said he was the closest to the “Gold Helmet” status as any 49ers draft pick this year.
DeleteZakelj was stuck down the order all camp. He's one for the future, but making the roster over Poe, who at least got reps with the 1s, is a bit of roster politics at play.
DeleteYou're right but he fought his way up through the order to end up on top as an ascending player, and Poe finished poorly signaling his ceiling. Even if it was a tossup between the two, Zakelj has versatility over Poe. Also there's a saying, big people beat up little people. Zekelj is a big dude with the right mental makeup to be an asset for this franchise down the road.
DeleteIf Zakelj was a UDFA instead of a guy they had scouted for 4 years, loved pre-draft, and a draft pick, he wouldn't be on the initial 53.
DeleteHaha, we'll have to agree to disagree here. If Poe had inside out versatility, maybe he gets the nod. Let's see if Poe gets picked up by any team.
DeleteNot surprised to see Turay not make the team. He consistently was seeing time with the 3s and 4s in preseason games, while Omenihu and Willis were starting and Jackson rotating in (with Bosa and Ebukam getting starter treatment). It was really down to Turay vs Hyder, and Hyder provides DT flexibility.
ReplyDeleteYep.
DeleteGlad to see Purdy survived to the 53 - for now anyway.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he's going anywhere, given Shanny had him as the #2 prior to the Jimmy deal.
DeleteKeeping him means they have a cheap backup through to the 2025 season.
DeleteI like the team and really am anxious to watch Lance. My expectation of Lance is to be better than JG by years end.
ReplyDeleteIf last year is any indicator, you've got to have a backup that can win 6 games for you. This offensive line in its current development poses the same threats to keeping Lance upright for 17 games, especially when factoring in he'll be running the football more than most.
DeleteThe offensive line is in disarray. Should get better with both tackles playing. Add scheme to it and it probably be like the last few years, run blocking good to really good and pass blocking average when playing their best.
DeleteI wouldn't rule out the team adding an interior OL between now and week 1.
DeleteThey've been sniffing around for one. The last one they brought in for a workout didn't workout.
DeleteScooter / Razor
DeleteI would like the 9ers to try and talk JC Tretter out of retirement.
IMO, he would help both Banks and Buford and stabilize the IOL
* POE: If he gets thru waivers, I'd like to see the 9ers try him at Center, where IMO, he'd be a better fit.
* Mason: Glad to see he made the cut to 53.
This is one of my main points re: the JG restructure. I don't like it because the way they handled the whole situation shows this is not what the team wanted or intended to do. It is a concern.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/how-jimmy-garoppolo-situation-completely-botched-49ers-procrastination
KS explained it pretty clearly today. The intent was to trade him and that is what Garoppolo wanted as well as it would be the only way for him to make the money in his contract. Practicing was not an option as if he got hurt the team couldn't trade or release him. JGs camp eventually came to the conclusion that there was no better option than staying and that's when things got rolling.
DeleteSo in summary it's not what they intended to do because the player didn't commit to it until a few days ago but it's something they always wanted. If he had agreed to this in March the 49ers would have happily done it then. To say they botched this is a silly overreaction from Maiocco who is usually more level headed.
Forgot to put my moniker on the post
DeleteIt's certainly a nice way to spin it.
DeleteOh, will if "Kyle explained it" then I guess there is nothing to question, after all, why would Kyle try to spin it to make them look better?
DeleteBTW, my big drop in Win total (over/under @ 8.5) is because I expect the 49ers to get off to a slow start, which they almost always do because of the complexity of their offense, with all of the precision required with the pre-snap motion and stuff).
DeleteI expect Trey Lance to fold under the pressure now, with Jimmy is lurking on the sideline and in the locker room. I know how it can really rattle a young guy, because I have seen it before. It's just human nature to get rattled when you have an entire team counting on you and someone who the players trust waiting for you to screw up. Jimmy will do his best to get things going but he hasn't even been around the team, hasn't taken a single snap behind this new OL. He hasn't even studied the new playbook. I don't think Jimmy's health (shoulder and everything else) can handle a heavy load, but once Trey's confidence is in the crapper, it's almost impossible for young players to get it back. It's really too bad because I was really looking forward to seeing what this offense could eventually be with a confident Trey Lance towards the end of the season. We already know what to expect from Jimmy, and nobody would even offer him $10M so I don't know what else there is to say about Jimmy, other than he can play well in spurts, when healthy.
Dumbest thing I have ever see in the leadup to a football season.
ReplyDeleteGreat, the 49ers have a good backup QB now. But at what cost? Kurt Warner just explained why this is going to be so difficult, and Kurt was trying to be nice. Like Peter Schrager said this morning, this is going to work out fine ... until it doesn't work out.
In other words, this is going to work out just fine, until Trey Lance has ONE bad game. What a great way to treat your young QB, SMH!
When plans fall apart as it did with JG then those plans become an adventure. JG is one injury away to a starting QB from leaving the team.
ReplyDeleteLance was given the keys to a billion-dollar corporation, and he did nothing to earn it. Lance will be given a long leash and will not have any fear of being replaced unless he just stinks it up. I don't see that happening. This situation can be a defining moment for the young quarterback. How he handles it could go a long way towards his success.
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The only turmoil to come from the Niners decision to keep Jimmy will be manufactured by the media. It has no bearing on the locker room. Don’t confuse the outside noise with internal issues.
100%. There is absolutely no downside to this. The negative takes are manufactured drama for people to talk about.
DeleteGeez did it again
Delete"There is absolutely no downside to this. The negative takes are manufactured drama for people to talk about.", lol, now I've heard, and read it all!
DeleteLet's look at this situation pragmatically, rather than with blind faith, and use some common sense:
Jimmy Garoppolo, who has a winning history with almost every player on the 49ers roster, and has quarterbacked this team to the Super Bowl, and now his contract is heavily monetarily incentivized for him to take the job away from the young, unproven - Trey Lance, who hasn't yet had the opportunity to win over his teammates.
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? LOL
My gosh, do they no longer teach critical thinking in high school anymore?
The chemistry in the 49ers locker room is now a ticking time bomb, not to mention what this actually does to Trey Lance's confidence. Trey Lance may have ice in his veins, but he's human being for crying out loud. And Trey has teammates who all have livelihoods to worry about. The difference between winning and losing can literally be the difference of whether or not some of these young players can even carve out a lucrative NFL career. Not everyone is making tens of millions of dollars. You don't think that if Trey Lance has some early season struggles, which by the way, all young QB's do, and the team gets off to a shaky start similar to the way they did last season (with Jimmy at the helm), that guys won't start looking looking after their own short term interests, and start choosing who they want to be their de facto leader at QB to get back to the playoffs?
Give me a break! This is not even up for debate. There is a reason that teams, once they officially hand over the keys, move on from the former QB if that QB has any kind of winning history with the team. This is just plain nuts!
"There are 32 starting quarterbacks in this league, and we believe we have two of them now," 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan said.
ReplyDeleteSomebody forgot to tell Kyle the old adage - "if you have "two starting QB's", you don't have any" SMH
Purdy and Mason may be PUP placeholders.
ReplyDeleteMy 49ers W-L record prediction has suffered the biggest one day swing ever!
ReplyDeleteOn Monday morning, I had the 49ers going 12-5 and winning the NFC West based on head to head VS the Rams.
That's out the window now!
Today, post Jimmy Garoppolo's restructure, I unfortunately have the 49ers over-under win total at 8.5, which probably sees them missing out on the postseason. There is always chance that everything goes well from the start of the season, in which case they could win double digit games, but the 49ers rarely get off to strong starts under Kyle, and there would be no coming back from a slow start now, like they did last season.
Yes and you also claimed they'd not make the playoffs last year and we all know that failed so k cool, you prove again you are a hater.
DeleteOMG! Your prediction has suffered the biggest one day swing ever. Zounds! But thanks for letting us know. We all care so much.
DeleteLooks like some of the $2M they owe Sudfeld will be picked up by the Lions.
ReplyDeleteExcellent!
DeleteWhile I find the whole JG situation a bit bizarre, the easiest way to make it a non issue is to just win games. Do that, none of the JG saga will matter.
ReplyDeleteThis team is built to win. If there's a better constructed roster I'd like to hear about it.
DeleteYup all they have to do is win games and it all goes away.
DeleteJohn Madden: "I've always said winning's the great deodorant, and conversely, when you have a bad record, everything stinks, ...."
DeleteA section of fans will always have individual pet peeves against the team's decision makers, however ill-informed or misguided those opinions may be.
We also know that Niners will lose some games and Lance will struggle from time to time. Those fans will unfailingly connect those adversities to their pet peeve :) I routinely shut them out.
I'm just so excited to see the Niners heading into the season in generally good health and depth at all positions (except the O line which is a problem for all but a small handful of teams).
Oline to me is less a problem and more an unknown. We haven't really seen all 5 playing together yet, we can assume the interior will have issue but they also have a lot of potential. I think they will get better as the year goes and thankfully playing against Chicago and Seattle is the equivalent to playing an Florida A&M and Toledo in your first two weeks in college if you're a Clemson.
DeleteThe 49ers just added Cleveland Browns tackle Blake Hance, 6'6" 310 lbs. Most of his experience is at RT. I think McGlinchey is wobbly.
DeleteHe played guard all this preseason with CLE
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DeleteHis pass blocking is much better at guard but he's played over 400 snaps at RT too. His run blocking grade is good at both. Another example of why Poe did not make the roster. Inside out versatility.
DeleteRazor
DeleteWho is Blake Hance? Browns HC Kevin Stefanski:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9vZ2L_Kwp8
Well Niners may be off the hook for at min half of Sudfelds contract as Lions expected to sign him.
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G Jason Poe went unclaimed on waivers. He plans to sign to the 49ers practice squad, per source.
As expected. Curious to see the PS roster.
DeleteTariq Castro-Fields signs with WAS.
ReplyDeleteWe got Q Knight, McCrary-Ball, Jason Poe, Willie Snead, Tashaun Gipson and Taylor Hawkins onto PS though.
Win!
Glad we got Knight, Ball, Poe and Hawkins
DeleteSo odd that PS is a place to put vets. Used to be two years in an if you didn't go off the PS you were pretty much not making it, now you got a guy whos played in near 100 games going to the PS.
DeleteLeagues changed a lot.
Baalke takes Hasty
ReplyDeleteI think the 49ers chose wisely by keeping Mason over him.
Deleteagreed, but I liked Hasty- he will hopefully get some chances there in JAX.
DeleteHey Mood: Despite your lambasting my desire for the team to keep Purdy (using your typical high on the horse generic "fan" reference), the team decided to keep Purdy over the $2 million Sudfeld. Next time you have a beef with my comments, address me directly. I think you and I have engaged each other enough that I deserve that consideration. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThat comment to mood was from me, cubus.
DeleteCubus,
DeleteHmm, where did I "lambast" anyone about keeping Purdy? My earlier comment about some fans (mostly Jimmy G "haters") was regarding their reaction to the signing of Jimmy G as the backup (mostly based on what I read on The Athletic).
Anyway, Niners chose Jimmy G over Sudfeld, not Purdy. I'm hard pressed to see Niners carry 3 QBs. Let's see how long Purdy lasts on the 53 with players coming back from IR and PUP.
Mood: Here is your direct response to my post. As you can see it had nothing to do with Jimmy G.
DeleteMood IndigoAugust 21, 2022 at 10:13 PM
So Mr. Irrelevant has a decent game against back-ups and third stringers and fans are in a tizzy that another team will sign the rookie (who has never played for them) to their 53 as their third QB??!! Every team has carried 3-4 QBs in their 90, and they are likely to choose their own third-string QB if they choose to carry 3. This is a league where Colt McCoy made vet minimum last season, IIRC, relishing his opportunity to beat Kyle and the Niners :)
Also, I don't see it as the team choosing Jimmy G over Sudfeld with regards to Purdy. As I see it, they are looking for Purdy to develop into the backup under the expectation that Jimmy G will be gone next year. In my opinion, Purdy is more suited to backup Lance then Sudfeld primarily because of his mobility, which might mean that KS will have the more of the Lance playbook available to him should Purdy need to step in. Further, at the moment, Purdy seems to be more accurate than Lance (at least over the middle - check out the article over on NN regarding Purdy). That article shows videos of some unbelievable passes that Purdy made into extremely tight windows (and it wasn't with the kind of velocity that Lance has). Sure he made rookie mistakes, but the potential is there.
DeleteCubus,
DeleteAaah, that was a comment from the hoary past of 10 days ago. You are right that I don't think much of Purdy being in the 53. And I absolutely think that no team will pick him up to be in their 53 if Niners cut him.
I will definitely make sure that next time I will address my disagreement/amusement with your views directly and with Harbaughesque EUTM.
"Also, I don't see it as the team choosing Jimmy G over Sudfeld with regards to Purdy."
DeletePurdy was #3 QB last week and he's the #3 QB right now. Nothing has changed for him. The only reason Sudfeld is gone, IMO, is the money.
"As I see it, they are looking for Purdy to develop into the backup under the expectation that Jimmy G will be gone next year."
They coach every player to maximize their potential as long as they are on the team. I have seen or heard nothing that indicates that they are grooming him to be next season's backup.
" In my opinion, Purdy is more suited to backup Lance then Sudfeld..."
I don't like either as viable backups in a Super Bowl contending team. I expect ShanaLynch to continue looking for a better candidate next off-season.
"That article shows videos of some unbelievable passes that Purdy made into extremely tight windows..."
Most of those throws will be INTs against starting defenses because of the lack of sufficient ball speed, IMO. I like Purdy's maturity and attitude, but it seems to me that his physical limitations will make him just an improved version of Mullens (more mobile and more arm strength). Hope I am proved wrong.
George:
ReplyDeleteBlake Hance info: The best I could find on him. Appears to be highly athletic. Has played both tackle and guard positions.
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2021/11/14/glue-cleveland-browns-line/
Field Yates
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The 49ers have waived RB Trey Sermon.
5:08 PM · Aug 31, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
George:
DeleteSon of a gun!
No politics there!
DeleteGeorge:
DeleteA man with a sense of humor. I could have said, "Well, call me a monkey's uncle!" but that would have offended somebody.
George:
DeleteThis confirms a few things:
1. I wasn't imagining he just didn't have it.
2. Take what Shanahan says publicly with a grain of salt.
3. They're willing to walk away from their mistakes within a year. That's the best news for me.
Makes me think they were hoping to trade one of their RBs.
DeleteInteresting make-up of the RB room now. None of the RBs really have what you would call breakaway or change of pace speed, and all are best working between the tackles.
Agreed.
DeleteIn other news, Turner and Turay land on the practice squad.
Surprised with teams ability to have up to 17 on PS that Sermon hasn't yet been signed to it.
DeleteHe's got to clear waivers first, right?
DeleteYes sir.
DeleteGeorge:
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#49ers practice squad:
DL Alex Barrett
S Tashaun Gipson Sr.
OL Alfredo Gutierrez*
S Tayler Hawkins
CB Qwuantrezz Knight
WR Tay Martin
LB Marcelino McCrary-Ball
OL Jason Poe
WR Willie Snead IV
DL Akeem Spence
OL Keaton Sutherland
DL Kemoko Turay
WR Malik Turner
2:29 PM · Aug 31, 2022
George:
DeletePremature, sorry. Need to add:
Tyler Kroft
Jordan Willis
Geirge - are Kroft and Willis on the PS or the active roster? I thought the plan was to get those guys back on the 53 once Ward and Robinson go to IR.
DeleteThat is a strong practice squad right there.
DeleteScooter, Kroft and Willis just resigned to the active roster.
DeleteThanks razor
Delete3 more spots left on PS -- an RB perhaps?
DeleteGeorge:
DeleteScooter, thanks for pointing that out.
Surely there's gotta be a place for Dontae Johnson? I mean the guy literally lives at Levis!!
DeleteJohnson signed to the practice squad.
DeleteTB27 has signed his 15th contract with the Niners!
DeleteNice! Gotta love and respect this dude's tenacity.
DeleteInteresting fact: Jimmie Ward (the longest tenured 49er) and Dontae Johnson were roommates at the Senior Bowl as rookies!
Zakelj’s pass block grades in preseason:
ReplyDeleteWeek 1: 22.3
Week 2: 69.8
Week 3: 81.3
(no pressures allowed in 26 pass blocking snaps vs. Hou)
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This seemed likely when G Jason Poe was waived earlier today, but draft pick Nick Zakelj has made the initial squad. Zakelj seemed shaky at first but got progressively better throughout camp.
I have high hopes for the guy. I was hoping they would make a center out of him.
DeleteHe wants to play center, and I read where the 49ers had him practicing snaps a couple weeks ago. I think that's ultimately where he ends up. Possibly next year.
Delete"We have really focused on him at the guards (positions). We don't want to throw too much [at him], but we do believe he has center in his future, and he'll start snapping out here and make that part of his repertoire under the thought that the more you can do, the better for him, and the better for us."
DeleteJ Lynch
I'm interested in the role they have for Poe. FB anyone?
ReplyDelete49ers 2023 OL:
ReplyDeleteWilliams/Banks/Zakelj/Poe/Burford
That will be solid.
DeleteHowever, we should also draft an LT/RT in Round 2 (our first pick) and one more day 2 pick, just because Williams is not on contract beyond '23.
Basically, we should address Oline in a similar way to what was done for the secondary in the past two drafts.
Sermon now an Eagle.
ReplyDeleteGeorge:
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John Lynch did indeed say that the 49ers were in pre-cutdown trade talks re: Trey Sermon, but for one reason or another those never came to fruition
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Eagles and 49ers discussed a trade for Trey Sermon last week; instead the Eagles claim Sermon on waivers today. twitter.com/adamschefter/s…
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Trey Sermon heads to Philadelphia's 53-man roster. The 49ers wanted him for their practice squad, but they now still have three spots left to fill there
George:
ReplyDeleteRegarding Sermon, a poster over at Niners Nation who calls himself Missing Link had these comments, and to me they make a lot of sense:
"RB is a position without a whole lot of nuance to it, other than possibly learning pass pro pick up. Most of the guys who are good are good right out of the gate. Can anyone post an example of a running back that looked as bad as Sermon during their rookie season and following camp, but subsequently 'developed'? I'm sure these examples exist, but I can't think of any?"
Other posters there commented that Philly has a better oline, and no doubt that will help anyone.
DeleteIt's sounding like Trey and JG situation is going to be alright. Face it, all Lance has to do is not lose games and the job is his.
ReplyDeletePretty much. I can still see them winning and he being replaced, but he would have to go all 5-30 with 2 Ints but the defense/STs securing the win.
DeleteOr injury, of course.
As big a JG supporter as I've been I think the talent on this team at the other positions will be more than enough to go 4-4 in the first 8 and that will be more than enough for Trey to stay in (now I do believe they could go better than 4-4 but that seems to be the worst possible record).
John Lynch today on why they waived Sermon: "The bottom line, Mason played too well." He also talked up Blake Hance.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30JjjWtdzPw
My Trey Lance season stat prediction:
ReplyDelete4100 yards
66%
22 TDs
9 Int
That probably would be good enough to get into the playoffs.
DeleteVery reasonable #s. Could be more yards and TDs if he plays all 17 games.
DeleteI'm hoping for around 1.5 - 1.75 TDs per game (incl. rushing TDs) and wouldn't be surprised to see close to 1 INT per game.
DeleteSo something in the vicinity of 25 to 30 TDs against around 15 INTs.
Scooter, how many rushing TD's as a team are you hoping for?
DeleteAs a team, something around 20 and above.
DeleteCall me unrealistic but I'm expecting 30 rushing TD's as a team.
Delete30 would be a lot, but not out of the question.
DeleteIn general, if you average around 24 ppg or above you are a good shot at making the playoffs. So 2.5 to 3 TDs, plus 1
to 2.5 FGs pg.
30 rushing TDs would be almost 2 pg. Would take a lot of pressure off Lance throwing for TDs to win games.
I think Lance will be a totally different quarterback by the end of November. Maybe like you say, closer to 25 or so.
DeleteGeorge:
ReplyDeleteBlake Hance vs. Joey Bosa youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUV1Tx_0IIc
Hance, number 62, is playing left tackle. Shows he can be nasty.
David Lombardi
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UTSA TE-turned-OL Leroy Watson has signed with the 49ers (practice squad), per his dad. Per some reports, Watson was about to join the Patriots (a Boston reporter said Watson even had a locker in New England).
George:
ReplyDeleteNiners worked out a few recently including Abram Smith, RB, Baylor, UDFA recently cut by Saints. Lance Zierlein gave him a 6.17 (Good Backup with Chance to Develop into a Starter)
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/abram-smith/3200534d-4901-9878-f2cd-c3c2fd1dbde5
It's getting close to opening day.
ReplyDelete1. Lance will be fine, he will have some rough spots but all and all he will be fine.
2. The O-line is going to be hard to watch especially in pass protection. However, Burford has the ingredients to be all pro. Banks is a big wide body not great at anything, but he is solid.
3. Shanny wants to run the ball, that is first and foremost. With Lance at the helm the eighth guy in the box will have to account for Lance.
4. JG will not be a distraction to begin with. Lance is going to have to stink it up for a while before JG even becomes a thought. With the way injuries accrue I suspect JG will be playing for someone else before trade deadline, if not Niners have a winning QB in the shadows.
5. The defensive line is stacked and if rookie Drake Jackson pans out, well, look out QB's. Bosa, Kinlaw, Armstead, Jackson oh my.
6. This might be the best secondary the Niners have had in many years.
7. Unknowns - O line and the running backs.
There is no way this team misses the playoffs. In fact, they should win the West by sweeping the division and will be the number one seed in the NFC.
only caveat is at Safety, until Ward comes back..... I think the interior OL will hold up ok- and I am glad that the weakest link appears to be LG...... whom is planted next to the best LT in the game. I think Fields and Mooney will have good seasons, but I would like to see the 49ers pressure Fields and dare him to beat them w his arm.
DeleteI am hoping that the pass rush is going to be ferocious, and Fields just won't have enough time to throw, lessening the blow of losing Ward a little bit.
DeleteGeorge:
ReplyDeleteAbram Smith highlight video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhU-vAmD8p8
Hope we can fit him in.
I sure hate the way Kyle has set the narrative for Trey Lance this season, and by keeping Jimmy around, I just want to go on record reminding everyone that I've always had concerns with Trey's development under Kyle, and IF TREY LANCE BREAKS this season, and I suspect he will, KYLE SHANAHAN DESERVES ALL OF THE BLAME!
ReplyDeleteThere will be no grace period for Trey Lance's 49ers career, and that is simply an unfair thing to do to an inexperienced 22 year old QB!
DeleteThere is a reason that coach Jim Harbaugh had enough common sense to jettison Alex Smith as soon as he possibly could after the 2012 season, just as Andy Reid had the same common sense to jettison Alex after Mahomes was named the Chiefs starter in 2018, even though Alex never experienced the same level of success as Jimmy!
If only Kyle Shanahan had the 2 qualities he's sorely lacking - 1) Common sense, 2) Courage (and the conviction that comes with courage) - he just might have been the greatest HC of all-time, rather than a HC with a below .500 regular season record, and THREE of the biggest postseason choke-jobs in NFL history!
Who picks the game captains - staff or players?
ReplyDeleteWhy did Kyle go out of his way to keep Trey Lance from being named a team-captain? Trey got the 7th most votes according to Kyle, that's the same amount that earned a team-captain spot both of the last two seasons?
DeleteWas it because he didn't want to name Trey team-captain over Deebo, even though Deebo publicly asked to traded off of this dang team, during the offseason?
I just don't understand how Kyle's brain works! I really don't!
Kittle has a groin injury. Unclear at this stage what his status will be game day.
ReplyDeletedamn :(
DeleteLovely
DeleteBrendel, Burford, and Banks -- a legal firm for interior blocking?
ReplyDeleteHope that Brendel stays healthy and none of the game days will be The Day of the Zakelj.
The players choose their team captains.
ReplyDeleteApparently Trey Lance was NOT named team captain this season, which in an of itself doesn't spell disaster, but it does reinforce why this situation is so perilous! After all, Jimmy Garoppolo has been voted team-captain, more than once, by this same group of players!
For me, I certainly didn't need to hear from Peter King, who clearly understands the problems created by keeping Jimmy this season. Just like I didn't need to hear Joe Staley talk about the real potential for the 49ers locker room to quickly splinter if Trey struggles early on, because I wrote about it on this blog the same day Jimmy officially became the 49ers "backup who has his sights set on regaining his starting stature". Just like I didn't need my good friends to label this season "Jimmy's Revenge Tour", for me to understand why this year's team is now BOUND TO FAIL!
The 49ers QB controversy is REAL, and is now a ticking timebomb! Tick Tock, Tick Tock, Tick Tock!
I sure do hope people, be it the fans, and/or the NFL pundits, remember just how poorly Jimmy G played last season! There is a reason why nobody wanted Jimmy G. enough to pay him $24M for this season, even though that's a bargain price in 2022, for a genuine - starting caliber - NFL QB!
ReplyDeleteis anonymous and 49erReasons the same person? sure sounds like someone talking to themself
ReplyDeleteI suppose that since Lance was GIVEN not earned, the keys to a multi-billion-dollar corporation that he should have been GIVEN the honor of team captain. I mean it makes no sense right 49...that he isn't.
ReplyDeleteLance not being a captain makes perfect sense on a roster with so many proven, All Pro calibre veterans in place. Definitely should be a case of earning the role, not being handed it.
DeleteCorrect.
DeleteNo, Trey Lance probably hasn't earned the right to be named captain, but that wasn't my point.
DeleteMy point is that one guy who has been named team captain for 4 straight years, is actually sitting behind Trey on the depth chart, and likely angling to retake his starting spot to become a 49ers team captain again.
That's the point! And it further demonstrates why the 49ers are playing with fire by holding onto Jimmy.
Plus, the 49ers OL is in absolute shambles, IMO, with RT McGlinchey clearly hobbled today in practice, and there is a very good chance that Trey Lance will seriously struggle early on, especially since I expect him to be running for his life, because the 49ers shamefully neglected their OL this offseason.
And IF Trey struggles early, which I suspect he very well might, and the 49ers start losing ground in the NFC West, the 49ers locker room is going to split like a wooden log, while the season goes up in flames!
JOE STALEY: "The thing that I'm worried about is that he's a first-year starter in the NFL, and he's going to have his rookie mistakes, some situations that don't look that great, and what I worry about with the team this year is if he goes out there and doesn't perform perfectly, are the guys in that locker room all of a sudden going to be like, 'we have a team that's built right now to win, and we have a quarterback that has taken us to where we want to be'?"
DeleteThe answer to Joe's one big question about holding onto Jimmy G, is unquestionably YES! No doubt about it!
The 49ers locker room rallied behind Jimmy during his struggles last season, because they used the fact that it was probably their last season together, as a rallying cry. Trey Lance will get no such benefit from the 49ers locker room as long as Jimmy remains on their roster!
Heck, Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch practically admitted as such: “We all know how it’ll go,” Shanahan said yesterday, “The fact that he has this successful quarterback behind him, that’s obvious how that narrative will be and understandably so.”
DeleteYou think??? No doy??
Like Rob Rob Guerrera wrote very astutely this morning (he is also the host of Niners Nation Podcast):
"If you want to say the title of captain is meaningless, that’s fine, but why not throw Lance a bone in that case? Name him a captain, avoid all the scrutiny and send a message inside the locker room that you’re behind him - especially with Jimmy Garoppolo still on the roster. If the title of captain does have meaning, what have they not seen from him that they want to see? The 49ers are choosing violence, again and again, when it comes to Trey Lance. They could have shown faith in him by clearing the deck before free agency, getting Jimmy Garoppolo out of town, and adding more depth at offensive line and safety. They didn’t. They could have shown faith in him during training camp by getting Jimmy Garoppolo off the team then. They didn’t. Instead, they restructured Garoppolo’s deal and continued to feed the narrative that they aren’t all-in on Trey. The fact that they have continued to choose to walk the hard road with Trey over the easy road tells you something. They’re doing it because they think they have to. They’re willing to suffer the slings and arrows because, in their mind it’s better than the alternative. You don’t pack a parachute unless you think there’s a chance you might have to jump out of the plane, and that’s true no matter how much some fans want to hide under the covers and pretend the monster can’t see them."
I've been extremely worried about Trey's development since the day he was drafted. The fact that every single meaningful decision the 49ers have made regarding Trey's development since then, tells me I am spot on, as usual. I don't relish being the barer of bad news for The Faithful, anything but. BUT I AM TOO OLD TO BLINDLY FOLLOW ANYONE, OR ANY TEAM! And I remain 100% convinced, now more than ever, that Kyle Shanahan will fail in his development of Trey Lance, because Kyle just doesn't understand the psyche of young players, and especially at the QB position. The most important thing a HC can do for a young QB is make it crystal clear that you believe in them. You don't constantly send the opposite message by way of your actions. And now, the only way I can see Trey Lance changing the narrative that Kyle has fostered, is if Trey plays like a super star from day one, starting this Sunday, and avoids the pitfalls that all first-year starters go thru. And I think that is highly unlikely, in large part, because Trey's confidence is already teetering, and the 49ers new look, incredibly inexperienced OL is likely not up to the challenge of protecting him!
By the way I will be looking for formations using 31 personal. I think its coming...
ReplyDelete"Joe Staley, the former 49ers locker room leader, admitted that he has concerns about how the locker room will handle Trey Lance’s struggles with Jimmy Garoppolo on the bench."
ReplyDeleteThis isn't exactly rocket science. In fact, it's common sense for anyone who understands the dynamics of an NFL locker room, because they have lived it as a player. Kyle obviously hasn't lived it as a player!
Cry more
DeleteKeep whistling past the graveyard, eMJay, whatever floats your boat! I predicted nobody would want to trade for Jimmy's this offseason, and I am pretty sure you blindly believed otherwise. You need to stop getting owned, dude!
DeleteThe fact that Jimmy Garoppolo came crawling back despite being embarrassed by the organization, and forced into a submissive role - carrying Trey's clipboard, tells you everything you need to know about Jimmy G as a competitor - why Jimmy has never improved over the years, and why he failed so miserably in all of the big games. And it also explains why I was right about his value, or I should say LACK OF VALUE, and there wasn't a single NFL team willing to trade for him during the offseason.
DeleteJimmy doesn't really need the money right now, so if he had even an ounce of PRIDE, he would never have renegotiated his contract down to backup level pay, for the team that has been openly trying to kick him to the curb for the last couple YEARS!
Mike McGlinchey was a full go at practice. That's good news.
ReplyDeleteFinally, The NFL has come back to Sundays!!!
ReplyDeleteSF should win this one buy a lot. They just have two much talent.
What I am hoping to see.
1. The Defense, I want to see a dominant pass rush and Run D.
2. Trey Lance, can he hit they layups and make the throws on time? If so, that should erase a major concern.
3. The Oline, How weak will it be? Who will be the weak link?
4. Coaching, How will Kyle use Trey Lance?
5. Special teams, Will Niner fans continue to hold their breath on every punt and kickoff or will SF finally field a respectable teams unit?
I smell what they're cooking
DeleteLance's short to mid-range accuracy will be the last component of his game to become consistent. I would venture to guess by mid November he should develop consistency in that part of his game if he continues to stay disciplined with his mechanics development.
DeleteThese points make sense.
DeleteI don't know about you'll, but this offseason has been long and tedious. In addition, I will keep my eyes open for:
1) Who starts at RB and who is inactive. If Jordan Mason gets carries before TDP (as he should), then we are a true meritocracy!!
2) Safety opposite Hufanga is also a game time decision. This will be a weak link in the secondary until J Ward is back.
3) Looking forward to watch Womack in real games. This kid is gonna be a star soon.
4) Game plan from Kyle Shanahan. Please don't go with the game plan used agains 'Cardinals last season, where Trey threw 100 million times.
Good Stuff Mugeek9er.
DeleteI should add one more... will SF's oline allow them to run the ball successfully enough to keep them in 3rd and short to managable or is it worse than we think.
Lesions, its obvious you can log in...if you're going to be an annoying participant then at least log in, theres no reason to keep posting under anonymous.
ReplyDeleteAnd just so you guys know, Trey Lance supposedly got the SEVENTH most votes for captain, and the 49ers went with SEVEN team captains over both of the last two seasons, so don't think this means absolutely nothing!
Delete"You don’t pack a parachute unless you think there’s a chance you might have to jump out of the plane, and that’s true no matter how much some fans want to hide under the covers and pretend the monster can’t see them."
DeleteI just think it’s kind of sad how so many Niner fans are choosing to simply gloss over the issues on the interior of the OL, not to mention just how questionable McGlinchey’s health appears to be. THERE IS NO BIGGER OBSTACLE FOR A YOUNG QB, THAN A BELOW AVERAGE OL! The 49ers will have at least 3, possibly 4, first year starters on their OL! That’s unheard of in today’s NFL!
ReplyDeleteThe OVER / UNDER for wins, because of the neglect on the interior of the OL, should be set at exactly 8.5, meaning .500, despite perhaps the best defensive unit in the NFL!
Well, I suppose having a HC who doesn't believe in you, might be a bigger obstacle for a young QB, so between that, and a very questionable OL, it's safe to say the deck is stacked against Trey Lance!
DeleteThis is what kills me about Kyle:
ReplyDelete“If you look into it that much, he was seventh in voting,” Shanahan said speaking of Lance. “I just didn’t want to put seven on there. Deebo was eight. We just wanted to go with six. They don’t allow eight to go to the coin toss, I don’t believe.”
Does Kyle really believe we are stupid, and can't find out that the 49ers named 7 team captains over both of the last 2 seasons, or does he just not care?
I knew with Lance not being named a captain was just going to get under your skin. I think we just ought to hand it to him and give him our sincerest apologies, don't you? In fact, why don't we make him the ONLY captain, after all we need to sooth his inner feelings after JG was signed to the team.
DeleteNobody is expecting Kyle to hand Trey anything!
DeleteBut how in the world is it considered "handing" Trey a team-captain title, when Trey received (EARNED) the 7th most votes on the team, according to Kyle, when EARNING the 7th most votes was enough votes to be named captain over the last 2 seasons? How does that make sense? That's the opposite of handing Trey anything, it's actually much more equivalent to "TAKING SOMETHING AWAY!"
At the very least, it's widely considered demeaning to Trey Lance, from any unbiased fan and/or reporter's perspective, so why do it? How about building the kid UP before the start of the season, rather than continuously going out of your way to tear the kid DOWN? If the 7th most votes was enough to be named captain in each of the last 2 seasons, how can this be construed in any other way than as a knock on Trey's leadership, and how does knocking Trey's leadership help him as a leader?
It makes no sense, and in fact is probably counterproductive in terms of Trey's confidence, and ability to lead, because everyone knows he should be seen as a team leader if he's doing things correctly. But like I said, I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, coming from Kyle Shanahan, who doesn't seem to understand how to develop QB's, and as a result, has never developed a QB in his lifetime! QB's either stop growing under Kyle's head coaching (like Trey has), or actually regress (like Jimmy G, Hoyer, Mullens, Beathard, Sudfeld have), and that's a fact!
Like father, like son.
DeleteQB - Jake Plummer came out publicly about how his coach - Mike Shanahan, always treated him as if he couldn't do anything right. He constantly gave Jake the impression that nothing he ever did as a QB was good enough. And Jake says it crushed him from a confidence standpoint, because it didn't really matter how well he played, it was never good enough!
Jake: “I think he (Mike Shanahan) had done what he could do and was just tapped out as far as his coaching style wasn’t motivating guys anymore! His style is just what it is. I think we’re seeing that he isn’t the special coach he thought he was. He’s a great coach, but he’s not like some of those guys that will take a player (QB), and play to his strengths. Coach Fox, man, look at what he’s doing. You think he’s going to force Tebow to throw 30 times a game? No. They’re going to try to win with what he can do, and it’s kind of fun to see."
The apple apparently doesn't fall far the tree!
Kyle’s worst trait as a HC, and a human being, IMO, is that he treats both reporters, and fans, as if we are all stupid!
ReplyDeleteGeorge:
DeleteSo now you're criticizing Shanahan as a human being? You're really losing it.
Unless you think that "Kyle the HC", is a completely different person - an alter ego if you will, than he is outside of coaching, then yes, I am criticizing Kyle as a human being, because they are likely one in the same!
DeleteOh, and this is rich!
ReplyDeleteBrian Murphy and Kerry Crowley asked Kyle Shanahan about former Bears DE Corey Wootton's comments about that "lack of faith in Trey Lance", and saying "Justin Fields will outplay Lance on Sunday". The NFL player turned podcaster points to the Niners "not making Lance a team captain and bringing back Garoppolo as PROOF that they lack faith in their young quarterback"!
Kyle was asked: How much does that kind of outside noise affect the 49ers coach?
"Zero," Shanahan responded while laughing. "IT SOUNDS LIKE 'A FAN TALKING', and someone who REALLY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT! 'Not to insult a fan or anything', but there wasn't anything substantial right there. That's just reading headlines and trying to make that into a football opinion."
Yah, who would ever get the impression that Kyle thinks "fan's" know nothing about football? Oh wait, Kyle actually said this? What a perfect statement from Kyle this morning, right on cue! I always appreciate Kyle when he reinforces my opinion of him, lol!
Mark my words folks, Trey Lance will never play a confident brand of football under Kyle Shanahan! He may play well in fits and spurts, because he has a ton of physical talent, but he will never take that big step from an emotional/psychological standpoint, so it won't be enough to save the 2022 season!
ReplyDeleteOr I should probably clarify this by saying that it won't be enough for the 49ers to go on a deep postseason run this season, if they even make the playoffs! And if he gets replaced by Jimmy for any reason, you can expect Trey's career as a 49ers QB to come to an abrupt end, almost before it even began!
DeleteAlso - I haven't been able to collaborate this, but I'm told that Trey Lance's mother can't stand Kyle.
ReplyDeleteShe hated the way Kyle gave the world the impression that they were into Mac Jones, more so than her son, and she's also been very unhappy with the way Kyle has handled the QB position this season.
I would assume that she's probably even more upset with Kyle snubbing her son as a team-captain right before the start of the season (Trey's first start as the team's #1 QB).
If I was Lance, I would be very unhappy with how you depict him. You make it look like he is mentally weak and now a momma's boy. If he fails, it will be because he isn't very good and for no other reason.
DeleteHow I depict him? How about the media and the narrative around Trey that Kyle has allowed to foster? Do you think this stuff is helpful for a 22 year old kid? That everyone expects him to fail? You really think that helps the confidence of a young man?
DeleteIf you do, you don't understand how fragile confidence can become for young athletes. And by the way, confidence is EVERYTHING for a 22 year old QB!
Even with all of this stuff stacked against trey, he might have a chance if Kyle hadn't decided to change out the majority of the OL with unproven, first-time starters. Who thought this was the best way to develop a young QB? It's absolutely idiotic, and you know what else, Mike McGlinchey wont last 3 games! Mark that down on your calendar.
DeleteI mean, have you guys seen this OL? Banks can't pass-protect, and Burford can't run-block. Brendel is 29 years old and has never "earned" a start until now. And who replaces McGlinchey after a couple games? McKivitz? Moore?
DeleteI am sorry, Jake Brendel is actually 30 years old, making his first NFL start.
Delete"I'm holding myself to the highest standard that I possibly can," Lance told Matt Maiocco of NBC Sports Bay Area this week. "I'm not using my inexperience or age or anything like that as an excuse.
DeleteNow, he sounds like a man, nothing how you depict him.
Someone whose confidence is that easily shaken has no business being in the NFL. Just think if Lance went to a piss poor team...poor momma's boy.
I disliked the trade regardless of who they were trading for but in no way do I want Lance to fail. If he fails, then the Niners are probably losing. I want Lance to do so well that I change my tune and thought it was a great trade...
You my friend are a Debbie Downer, if it doesn't go your way you loudly cry foul, it's everyone else fault, you are always right and so on and so on...
Under...agree. Lance was my top QB choice that year (besides TL, but he was going #1 so why even consider it?). If they had to get a QB he was the one.
DeleteNow do I think the team would have been better using that #3 pick, which they traded up for, trading back on draft day to acquire a pick or so and instead getting a Kyle Pitts to team with Kittle? Or staying at 12 and getting a Parsons to team next to Bosa? Sure, both of those would have helped Jimmy and the team as a whole during the 21 season, I mean think of an offense with Kittle, Deebo, BA and Pitts?!?! Insane, but they wanted a young QB who they hope could be here for the next 15 years, I'm good with that. I believe they should have sat him for 2 years, instead of 1, and let him truly ease in as he had not played a lot in college and was extremely green, but they made the move this year. Hope he succeeds cause his success is SFs, but even if he struggles (or gets hurt) and Jimmy takes over does not spell his doom on the team, I mean we all saw those rookies play horribly last year and will most likely play only slightly better this year but no one's giving up on them.
But what I can't stand for is a dude like Lesions who keeps posting hyperbole, who thinks he's this genius and probably never played one snap in his life, and brings such a pessimism to this board it makes it not enjoyable to be here because, and I can only speak for myself, we disengage from conversation, no one wants to talk to a lunatic only. Its him talking to himself 75% of the time, and thats bad for all parties.
First off, I'm not "always" right, I am "usually" right. I've been following the 49ers closely since the early 80's, so I've seen a lot. I've seen enough to understand how important confidence is for a young QB. How important it is for him to feel like he can make a mistake, have a bad game, without worrying about the locker room turning on him, going back to the QB whom they are familiar with, and they know they can gop far with. Not having to look over his shoulder and see a QB who is still relatively young, and who has a history of success with this team. Not having to watch his back, worrying about whether Jimmy is doing what most competitors would do in the same situation, naturally looking to regain his starting QB position, even if it means he might need to undermine the kid in order to make it happen. A QB (and 4-time team captain), in Jimmy who is literally financially incentivized to do whatever it takes to regain his staring spot, even as soon as midseason, perhaps "especially" as soon as midseason. That's really not a level playing field. Jimmy already naturally has much more support among his teammates because they've been through it together. That's the way athletes brains work. They don't care what is best for the team long-term, if that in anyway means there will be short term losses, because a lot of these guys livelihood's depend on success NOW, not next season, or and certainly not what's best for the next 5 seasons!
DeleteKyle hasn't created a level playing field, he's actually created the toughest environment for a young QB to succeed, despite an extremely talented all-around roster. Why would any smart HC spend 3 first round picks on a young, inexperienced QB, and not give him the support every young QB needs in order to be given the best chance to succeed? I believe it would hbe hugely beneficial for Trey Lance to go through the growing pains this season, without looking over his shoulder, wondering if he's going to be replaced before midseason by a QB who has the receipts. A QB who has every advantage, and every incentive to replace you, and prevent you from getting the opportunity to reach your potential.
Keeping Jimmy Garoppolo basically sealed the 49ers losing fate this season, and I'm angry about it. I feel bad for Trey, and I feel extremely disappointed about the long term success of my favorite team, because I understand just how badly the deck has been needlessly stacked against Trey Lance.
It would be one thing if I wasn't 100% convinced that Jimmy isn't the long term answer at QB, but he's the worst BIG GAME QB I have ever seen, and the numbers support this opinion. I like Jimmy, but I like my 49ers winning championships, and I am sick and tired of coming up short, knowing ahead of time that the team is likely going to come up short!
Dude!!! 49Lesions, you just spammed the board with 13 posts in the last 24 hours. There were only 2 other people who posted a message, you were talking to yourself.
ReplyDeleteDo you not understand how egomaniacal you look? Stop this crap, it ruins the experience. And stop posting like you're some football idiot savant, you aren't, at all...you talk like a dude who thinks the WWF drama is reality and how it occurs in all sports...it doesn't.
Stop with the hyperbole please (if you don't know what hyperbole is, please look it up).
It's one thing to discuss and react, its another to think you're Bill Walsh and think you a mastermind of the NFL game, players, coaching etc.
Update, 17 times now. I started writing my post then had to do something, when I finally hit send...30 minutes later, you had already posted 4 more rants.
DeleteI will gladly disappear if I'm wrong about the Trey Lance situation, so you should feel good about that.
DeleteJust like I would have disappeared by now if Jimmy didn't end up costing the 49ers their 2nd Lombardi Trophy in the last 3 seasons, like I had predicted.
Just like I would have disappeared by now if a team, ANY TEAM, had wanted Jimmy bad enough to actually trade for him this off-season.
Seriously, I would have been gone a long time ago, if I hadn't been proven right time, and time, and time again!
No you won't. You promised to "disappear" when the niners beat the cowboys, you didn't, you left for not even 1 month and then went on a childlike rampage of impersonations, spamming, and annoyance.
DeleteWe get that you have nothing at all in your life, but maybe just maybe stop being a clown and instead just post sensible, succinct, and limited posts, and don't reply to your thesis paper length posts with more thesis paper length posts, rambling nonsense the lot of them.
Again, just be a sane person, mkay?
Hopefully Trey and Kyle can finally prove me wrong!
ReplyDeleteYou were proven wrong last year, multiple times.
DeleteIll tell you what. I've made my point now, eMJay, so I am going to disappear until 10/3, week 4 on MNF VS the Rams.
DeleteWe'll see how Trey and this OL are doing at that point, and I'll reassess! Who knows, maybe this team will surprise me by then?
STAY TUNED!
Ok, you do that.
DeleteThanks 49reasons/Anonymous.
DeleteTake a break. You need it. We need it.