The postseason is a year away. Win or lose the only thing they're playing for today is pride. Another opportunity to advertise your worth for the rest of the NFL to see. Miami isn't sunk but their ship is taking on water and a loss today will certainly sink their last chance at a wild card spot. The Dolphins are averaging just over 33 points in their last 3 wins while only 14.5 in their last two losses. They struggle to win low scoring games and will need their offense to come out guns blazing. Tua does lead the NFL in completion percentage but he threw 3 Int's in last Sundays defeat to the Texans (RIP Tank Dell), while also suffering a hip injury. San Francisco has elevated Graham, Barrett, Vaughn and recently signed OG Austen Pleansants. If it were up to me I wouldn't play Greenlaw or Bosa who are both players that you don't need to see but I understand the mechanics behind why they'll probably both play. The 49ers are the more physical team and will probably win the game, but in the greater scheme of things the debate comes down to whether or not they should win the game. Afterall, it's all about draft position and strength of schedule looking ahead to next years hope of another Super Bowl appearance where San Francisco is the host stadium. Go Niners?
49ers Inactives: QB Josh Dobbs (3rd QB) OT Trent Williams (ankle) RB Isaac Guerendo (hamstring) DE Robert Beal Jr. (ankle) CB Rock Ya-Sin TE Jake Tonges DT Khalil Davis
"If it were up to me I wouldn't play Greenlaw or Bosa who are both players that you don't need to see but I understand the mechanics behind why they'll probably both play."
ReplyDelete* I would agree. IMO, it's better to let both Greenlaw and Bosa sit and get 100% healthy for next season, rather than play them and risk an injury that would set back their recovery for next season.
* Use the games left in the 2024 season to evaluate 9er players who
will be UFA's in 2024, and determine who to resign and who not to. .
My brain says sit the injured get the better picks and schedule. My heart says beat the crap out of the Dolphins and BP look like you did last year.
ReplyDeleteMy sentiments exactly!
DeleteI'd much rather see the team finish the season well, have some young guys continue their development, than play poorly to get a higher draft pick!
DeleteUnfamiliar player numbers today:
ReplyDelete20 RB Israel Abanikanda
32 RB Patrick Taylor Jr.
41 LB Jalen Graham
49 RB Ke’Shawn Vaughn
58 DE Alex Barrett
62 OL Austen Pleasants
Very unlikely these players will be back next year.
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ReplyDeleteTeams playing hard despite their circumstance. Let's see if they can clean up the mistakes and skin the Dolphins in the second half.
ReplyDeleteFirst half pretty much looked like a microcosm of the season. Pretty Mediocre, too many penalties and another injury (Greenlaw)
ReplyDeleteOh and no pass rush
Delete49ers are now mathematically eliminated from playoffs. Honestly, that's something I never expected to hear back in September. At this point it's time to be strategic on resting players who will be back next season and let young guys play.
DeleteAlso, will Moody be back? Sheesh...
3rd round pick Moody. 3d round pick Thomas. 1st round pick Pearsall. 1st round pick Lance, And on and on. 49ers problems are systemic.
DeleteOldCoach
DeleteGreenlaw injury.... precisely the reason I wanted KS to not play him.
All I want for Christmas is both Deebo and Jake Moody to be locked in.... in the same game.
ReplyDeleteIs that too much to ask!?? SMH
Apparently it is too much to ask.
DeleteA twist on Murphy’s law should be called Niners law. Whom ever can get injured, will get injured.
ReplyDeleteCorrect. Only team to have DB coach tear an Achilles during a game... Hence proved. :p
DeleteHonestly I think its bad Karma for the way Wilks was handled.
Hard to win a game when you have no running game, commit 11 penslities and half of your O line is injured.
DeleteTrue, but don't let Brock or the coaches off the hook so easily.
DeleteBrock has single handedly ended two consecutive games with ill-timed interceptions. The more I see him in the 4thQ, the more he resembles Geno Smith.
Penalties are on the coaches. And accountability is on the head coach. No sugar coating this anymore. This is a poorly coached team with a lot of entitled players and coaches.
Purdy had no chance on that play. The O line didn’t give him a chance. He was hit as he tried to release. That was on Nick Z.
DeleteAs for the penalties, how in the world can you blame that on the coaches? These players have played for years. They know the rules. It’s on the players 100%.
Your assessment is way off base. Ridiculous comment about coaches and players.
In Training camp, there were reports that the team did not practice ST reps. Schneider was instead talking to folks rather than setting up reps.
DeleteThis is on ST coaches and Head coach. You are either coaching it up or letting it happen.
They played hard and lost which was the best outcome to inch towards that top 10 pick. This draft has the least amount of 1st round grades in recent memory with 10, maybe 12 maximum.
ReplyDeleteDeebo had a great game. Kittle had a great game. The D was okay. The O line was terrible before the injuries. Purdy was decent at best. The best thing that happened today was Greenlaw getting banged up. He may not play again this season and teams might be scared off of signing him to a big contract. A motivated Greenlaw on a 1 year prove yourself contract might make him unstoppable.
ReplyDeleteAnd the 49ers season is officially (playoffs) over today with a sigh and a whimper. 🤙
ReplyDeleteThere's obviously a few holes on this team and therefore a few areas they need to upgrade this offseason, but I still think DT is the biggest need.
ReplyDeleteI think 1st round pick would be a DE or playmaking DB.
DeleteBut IMO, Oline and TE are the biggest needs. We have to take a page out of the Lions/Eagles play book and get stouter upfront on offense.
T.Williams is dependable for 10-12 games per season.
Brendal always watches our RBs/QB get tackled. Puni is good but needs to be developed. Burford is on contract and can play LG, and McKivitiz is not going anywhere.
Feliciano won't be signed back...even if he is, not sure if his body can take 17 games.
Banks, Moore and Bartch are all Free Agents.
So I think we have to address OL somewhere in the 1-3 rounds and also invest in TE to complement Kittle. Those on the roster are not it. Tonges is not getting developed fast enough. IIRC he has not been activated all offseason, even though he takes up a 53 spot. Same with Brayden Willis.
Scooter
DeleteA DT you'd draft Rd #1? How about Rd #2? An OT or EDGE, with Rd #3 being position you didn't draft in Rd #2?
GEEP, I don't think they should force a pick in round 1. If a great looking DT is available when they pick then awesome, but if there's better players at other positions then go another direction.
DeleteBut I do think that DT is their biggest weakness right now. Far more so than DE, though never a bad thing to add talent there either. OL is their second biggest weakness imo.
We'd be drafting 11th overall if the draft was this week.
ReplyDeleteI can't see the Niners beating the Lions or the Cards for that matter. 6-11 is a far cry from what I thought they would be.
ReplyDeleteCatostrophic year that began with Aiyuk's holdout, 1st round pick shot in the chest, 2 deaths of player's children and 1 staff's spouse, ending with a hornets nest of injuries.
DeleteSomehow they need to get through these next 2 games without further damage if that’s possible.
DeleteGreat game by Deebo trying to makeup for his embarrassment last week and more importantly auditioning for a possible move to Miami. He knows what might be coming in the offseason.
ReplyDeleteI'd be shocked if Deebo isn't playing for this team in 2025.
ReplyDeleteGiven it would be $30M dead cap hit to release/ trade him before June 1, agree, hard to see them parting ways this offseason. But I don't think he's worth what they are paying him. Better hope he can find his form again next year.
DeleteWe now know that Deebo can still do it. So now the question has to be why he didn’t until this game. Maybe we’ll find out more after the season.
DeleteDeebo hasn't had a consistent season since he showed up for training camp out of shape after inking a big deal. Don't expect anything different in the future. If we can move him to Miami for minimal cost and maybe even a late round pick (5th) then do it.
DeleteIn 2024, the 49ers had right around 30 million in dead money. By my calculations if Deebo and Hargrave are post June 1st cuts, the dead money for 2025 will be right around 33 to 35 million. It might be worth it although I admit I haven't looked beyond 2025.
DeleteWell said
DeleteHere’s what we do know. 1. He showed up to training camp in Great shape. 2. He had an oblique injury early in the season. 3. He contracted pneumonia and was hospitalized. It’s just possible that he was not at full strength for much of the season.
DeleteI can't remember who the player was that was interviewed after the game, but his answer to a question about the Pearsall penalties suggested strongly that the complexity of the language of the play calls was largely to blame.
DeleteI think it is possible that Pearsall is not the sharpest tool in the shed. This is not the first game he has lined up wrong and was penalized and there were few times earlier in the year that BP had to take TOs because Pearsall was in the wrong place. I wish that KS would give him a look at punt returner the last 2 games while giving Cowing some time at WR.
DeleteYeah, I think not getting much time in TC and missing first part of the season hurt him in getting up to speed too.
DeleteNot the first WR to struggle getting across Shanahan's scheme.
Shanahan wouldn't part ways with Jimmy G, a quarterback he didn't really like, for anything less than a 2nd round pick and you think he'd trade Deebo to Miami, his favorite player, for a 5th round pick? No chance!
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ReplyDeleteThe 49ers certainly did not look like a playoff caliber team. More injuries, penalties up the ying-yang."
Matt Maiocco
Couldn't have said it better, lol.
If Niners are going to pay Purdy, they better rebuild the O-line. LT, RT and a smart aggressive center would go a long ways to keeping Purdy somewhat safe.
ReplyDeleteHere's some stats from yesterday's game to prove the point you are making:
Delete"Purdy dealt with several different offensive line combinations and was under pressure throughout the game. The Dolphins' defense racked up pressure on 17 of the quarterback’s dropbacks, or 37 percent, which led to Purdy only completing four of his 11 attempts for 42 yards, one interception and a 10.4 passer rating.
When the offensive line kept Purdy clean, his production improved significantly, completing 22 of his 29 pass attempts for 271 yards, two touchdowns and a 127.2 passer rating. The 49ers' offense also was more productive when using play-action, helping Purdy complete 12 of his 15 attempts for 144 yards, one touchdown and a 128.9 passer rating.
Purdy did not attempt any deep passes of 20 yards or more, instead, completing a season-high eight screen passes for 103 yards. The play-caller’s five-yard average depth of target is the lowest of his career in a regular-season game."
https://sports.yahoo.com/pff-graded-purdy-49ers-frustrating-181613895.html
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ReplyDeleteThe 9ers need to address not only the O-line, but the D-line as well. The 2025 draft will need to be as good as the 2024 draft, to remain a SB contender. IMO, that will be problematic If they pay BP $60 - $65 Mil P/Y.
I think tackles are a future need. They absolutely need a center and also a left guard this off season.
ReplyDeleteI agree UC. The 49ers need to strengthen the Oline be it through FA or the draft, or the 49ers will sink into oblivion. Purdy is not the type of QB (right now) that can put the team on his back and carry them to a victory as has been evident this season. Draft needs: DT, the interior front got bullied all season. Edge, if the 49ers want to keep up with the Rams, they need to draft along the Dline like they have. S, Hufanga and Mustapha are prone to injury due to their playing styles. LB, Greenlaw post injury is still a question going forward. Warner slowed down after the 1st 5 games this year.
ReplyDeleteThe 49ers need to draft with the mindset that they are a 6-9 record and not use the mindset that they will be better next year when injured players return, even if that will happen.
My early draft crush is DT TJ Sanders, but only if you can get him in the 2nd round.
ReplyDeleteHe'll go in the 1st round. If the Niners can't get Graham I bet they take Nolen. Harmon will probably come off the board next followed by Sanders. Great draft to need a DT.
DeleteYeah, good DT class. But not great. I think some of these guys that are being touted as first rounders aren't quite that. Oh well, the problem of not being a particularly strong draft overall.
DeleteOT is kinda similar.
Scooter
Delete* A lot to like about Sanders. He may be the best penetrating DT in the 2025 draft.
* My concern is he's undersized for a DT and may struggle against double teams and power run teams. Also, he has limited starting experience (only 7 starts). He may need time to adjust to NFL O-Lineman?
* We'll get a look at how well he handles NFL draft prospects in the Sr Bowl.
All good points GEEP. He6not without risk. That's why he's a 2nd rounder for me.
DeleteAES / Anyone willing to share their opinion
ReplyDeleteWhat order should the 9ers draft BPA positions in the 2025 draft, knowing it may change after Bowl games, Combine and pro day?
I have first Rd: DT..... Second RD: OT..... Third RD: EDGE and C..... fourth RD: OLB...... Fifth RD: SS..... Sixth Rd: OG..... Seventh RD: RB
Free Agent(s): CB, TE and IOL
NOTE: Rd #1 and Rd #2 picks could flip, depending on BPA available.
I'm not quite sure I follow - BPA should be position neutral...?
DeleteImo the 49ers top needs in order are DT, C, OT. After that they have plenty of spots that could do with better depth.
But in terms of draft (or FA), aim should be to fill those three spots but still shouldn't over reach for a position if a guy isn't there. E.g., if the top player available when they pick in round 1 is a DE, take him.
Scooter
Delete* It should read BPA positions AVAILABLE (IE, in that Rd).
* I haven't seen a draft board with C listed as high as 2nd Rd?
But I'd be ok if one was available and 9ers drafted one.
Yeah ok. From my perspective we have no idea at this stage what may be available when the 49ers pick, so saying DT round 1 based on BPA feels "off".
DeleteScooter,
ReplyDeleteSanders is a good 2nd rd pick if he's still there at the 49ers pick. Some mocks have him in the late 1st rd because of his quick athletic ability. But some say he's to light and not strong enough to fight off double team. Do you think he's stout enough to be successful at the next level? How about moving him to Edge where his quick athleticism could be effective?
I think Sanders would be a nice replacement for Hargrave. You'd ideally have a bigger DT you can put next to him, but Sanders has been surprisingly effective as a run defender in college. Lots of run stops. Very disciplined. Good at finding gaps.
DeleteI've also heard he's very intelligent and coachable, and a good leader by example.
Another guy I really like, but will depend on his medicals, is OT Josh Simmons. If he's available at the 49ers 1st round pick and his medicals look good, he's probably the guy I'd take.
ReplyDeleteScooter
DeleteSimmons is from San Diego and played for San Diego St. before transferring to Ohio St.
* Friends in San Diego, that followed him at SD St.and Ohio St. say he commits too many penalties (25 the past 2 seasons).
* That he's best suited for a power-based offensive scheme but his physical traits and with NFL coaching he can become a solid contributor in an offense that emphasizes inside zone running concepts.
Sanders has Solomon Thomas measurebles. Thomas relied on his quickness as well but was often swallowed up by big Olinemen. Shanahan tried him on the Edge but eventually came back to the interior.
ReplyDeleteTJ looks good on tape but the NFL is a different animal. I believe that the 49ers need to hit on the 1st three rds. These 3 players must be able to contribute as rookies if needed. The later rds where the 49ers have found success is a bonus.
Going into the 2025 draft the 49ers need to pick players they can begin to build the immediate future on. Are current stars should not shape the upcoming draft.
He's a very different player to Thomas. Thomas was rigid and hulked up, Sanders is really fluid and flexible with room to add mass. No comparison imo.
DeleteAES,
DeleteThe 9ers have 2 picks in round 3. So they better hit on all 4 picks
Hitting on just 2 of their 4 day 1 and 2 picks would be a good outcome based on how unreliable the draft is. Getting a good player or two from Day 3 would be a real boon.
DeleteAlso need some of their 2024 draft picks to develop into good starters, not just capable starters/ role players (have seen some promising signs as rookies).
*Our* current stars...
ReplyDeleteAfter the disasterous trade for Lance, the team needed to hit on all subsequent drafts. Of course there will always be a player or two, but after reading this article, it certainly looks like the 2023 draft was a bust (maybe Dee Winters has shown something). But a 3rd rounder on a kicker when an adequate one can be taken in the later rounds or signed off the street.......
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ninersnation.com/2024/12/23/24328351/san-francisco-49ers-2023-nfl-draft-class-is-slowly-fizzling-out-after-two-seasons-jake-moody
Yeah, whiffing for the most part on the 2022 and 2023 drafts has put the team in a bit of a hole in terms of replacing players coming off contract and building a roster around Purdy.
Delete@Scooter: I haven't seen you comment on what you think a Purdy contract should be. Nick Wright is suggesting a cursory offer of $100 million for 3 years. If he doesn't accept, he still has a year on his rookie contract and can be franchised tagged afterwards. That does seem low in today's market, but I wouldn't go above $40-45 million average. I think there is a chance that he'll take it, because frankly I don't know if anyone will pay him more. There's always been this take outside of the 49ers fan base that Brock is a system QB who needs near perfect conditions around him. I don't agree fully with that, but some of it is true. And he hasn't done anything this year to dissuade evaluators from that mindset.
DeleteCubus, I am probably in the minority at this stage, but I still feel very optimistic about Purdy as a long term QB. The narrative this year has focused on what he isn't and how he's regressed, but I think that so long as he doesn't allow it to subvert his confidence, this was the type of year he needed at some point to grow.
DeleteHe's a cerebral QB and those types of QBs usually need some time to develop. What we've seen from him to date imo should be cause for more optimism than concern, albeit there are obviously some areas for concern.
So, imo I don't mind paying him market rate. Making him the richest QB feels too much, but Tua/ Lawrence money seems fair for what the market is currently saying. I would just make sure there are some rip cords in the deal so if he doesn't improve they can get out of it in a couple of years without too much pain.
Scooter,
DeleteYour ideas on BPs contract sound good. Good for the 49ers that is. I don't see BPs agent or BP for that matter agreeing to them. QBs have their teams by the short hairs. If the 49ers don't give BP everything he wants he will just hold in. The 49ers can either give him what he wants or be happy with another 3 to 6 win season. If that happens both KS and JL are gone. The story that BP is a good guy and a caring team mate is a fantasy. He will get almost everything he asks for and will laugh all of the way to the bank. Football may be a game when it gets to the field but when it comes to contracts it is a business.
Yeah, the AAV doesn't really mean as much as the guaranteed money and outs in the contract.
DeleteOn the plus side I think you have pretty much seen his floor... So at worst with few weapons, terrible line he's a mid their QB.
The downside is his his decisions have not been especially good in high pressure moments. The second part to this is the Shanahan offense appears to struggling across the league so how will it need to adjust? What will those adjustments require from the QB going forward?
So outs will be needed for certain.
OC, having a few rip cords in deals, even QB deals, isn't uncommon.
DeletePurdy has the same agent as Tua, and Tua's deal had such options.
Also working in the 49ers favour is that Purdy is scheduled to make next to nothing next year. If you give him a 4 year extension with $220M in new money (bigger than Tua's extension), he's getting paid $221M over 5 years once you add the remaining year on his current deal. That actually works out to be less than $45M per annum, and that's not even accounting for void year impacts.
I mean, even if you give him a 4 year, $240M extension, over 5 years its still under $50M per annum.
They'll figure something out. And it will likely have an out after 2 or 3 years.
Good point re Moody. John Lynch needs to bring in other kickers to compete with the Moody Blues.
ReplyDeleteNick Wright is a hack.
ReplyDeleteT. Williams, Banks and Moore all out for the rest of the season. I have been watching the 49ers for about 62 years and have never seen anything like this season, not even close.
ReplyDeleteOh and I forgot Burford likely out. Who will start at LT this week?
DeleteTHE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY: If the season ended today, the 9ers would draft in the 11th spot. The 9ers last selected No. 11 overall in the 2010 NFL Draft, selecting OT Anthony Davis out of Rutgers.
ReplyDeleteDuring HC KS and GM JL's tenures with the 9ers, they've made a top-20 selection 5 times. Here's who the 9ers have taken with those picks.
DT Solomon Thomas (No. 3 overall, 2017)
OT Mike McGlinchey (No. 9 overall, 2018)
DE Nick Bosa (No. 2 overall, 2019)
DT Javon Kinlaw (No. 14 overall, 2020)
QB Trey Lance (No. 3 overall, 2021)
Q: WHO WILL JL AND KS SELECT AT # 11 IN 2025 DRAFT?
Ouch! And worse, this is not considered a strong draft class. The team is starting to look old beat-up and tired. Lynch and Shanahan need to have their best draft ever to have a chance at remaining in the playoff picture next year.
DeleteThe reality is the 2025 draft likely won't much be about helping them stay competitive in 2025 so much as future years. Ideally one or two guys can start immediately, but even then the expectation shouldn't be they step in as immediate stars.
DeleteWhat they need is the 2024 class to step into more prominent roles, and their aging stars to stay healthy. And they'll likely need to hit on a couple of smart FA pick ups.
Scooter
DeleteI would agree with you except for DT. Hargrave will be a FA in 2025 and unless he's willing to take a pay cut, he likely won't be back.
Will DT's Mailek Collens & Jordan Elliot be the 9er starters for the 2025 season?
The 9er have DT's Givens, Davis and Anderson that can rotate but they're also FA's in 2025. Will the 9er resign either one, or both of them?
The 9ers also have DT Nesta Jade Selvira on PS, but I doubt he's a starter?
Are there DT's in the 2025 draft that could be day 1 starters
and still be on the board when the 9ers draft?
Kenneth Grant, Michigan? Walter Nolen, Ole Miss? Derrick Harmon, Oregon? Or Tyleik Williams, Ohio State?
Fair point GEEP. If they take a DT high then ideally he would be an impact player year 1.
DeleteAs I've said before, DT imo is the 49ers biggest need, and hopefully they can add some quality and depth this offseason.
The 9ers finished Sunday’s game with 3Rd string offensive linemen playing L-OT and L-OG.
ReplyDeleteThat raises the question, should the 9ers start BP and risk getting him inured?
I highly doubt that Dobbs will be back next season. Bring up Mordechai and let him play if the score is out of reach whether the 49ers are ahead or behind.
ReplyDeleteAES,
ReplyDeleteWith the O line the 49ers will start on Sunday Mordecai might pull a Campbell and refuse to go in.
Ha! Good point, Coach. If the 49ers give me a call, I'd be willing to play. Now, if I can find my old leather helmet.
ReplyDeleteAES
DeleteWith all the 9er injuries, be careful what you wish for! I'd think twice before you answer your phone....lol
GEEP,
ReplyDeleteThat's good advice, lol.
NFL Special Teams EPA
ReplyDeleteNiners rank dead last in the NFL with 47.5 expected points lost on special teams over 16 weeks. That's an average of more than 3 points lost per game.
The #49ers rank 3rd in the league for the fewest EPA/play allowed in the first quarter but fall to 29th in the fourth quarter.
ReplyDeleteBesides GTFO a healthy and consistent rotation upfront is paramount to this scheme as evidenced by the above statistic.
ReplyDeleteOne of the bigger issues they've had, imo, is struggling to create 3rd and long in the second half of games (and then getting off the field when they do). Too easy for opponents to sustain drives with rush yardage when they need it. A key reason why I see DT as a bigger issue than DE.
DeleteWhen you ask your DL to play with their hair on fire every play, you need to have competent bodies to keep throwing wave after wave. I would double dip at DT early and late.
DeleteYeah, either that or make a smart addition in FA + 1 in the draft. I really think they need to add a true interior pass rush threat to replace Hargrave (that is also decent against the run) plus a good 1T/2T. Collins is fine as a rotational guy and hopefully Anderson can keep developing, but Elliott has been disappointing and Givens is just a depth guy imo. None of the rest have done anything to convince me to keep them on the active roster.
DeleteAgreed.
DeleteMerry Christmas to All
ReplyDeleteRight back at you AES and Merry Christmas to all of the rest of you 9ers lunatics.
DeleteMerry Christmas guys!
ReplyDeleteAnd to you and everyone on here!
DeleteA Merry Christmas to everyone on the blog and a happy new year!
DeleteTo Razor, Scooter, Old Coach and AES, I especially want to thank you for sharing your insight and opinions on the 9ers.
Renardo Green has the 3rd highest CB coverage grade (76.5) from his draft class, and 12th among all cornerbacks in the NFL.
ReplyDeleteGreen looks like a keeper. Should the 49ers still go into the draft with CB as a big priority?
ReplyDeleteI'm hoping DT, OT, Edge, C as first 4 picks. They must hit on 3 of 4 and and hope for the best after that.
Green and DeMo will be thr starting CBs next year, but they'll need a reliable 3rd guy. Though I would probably try and acquire that in FA + a day 3 draft pick.
DeleteI have a similar order of priorities as you. Mine is DT, OT, IOL, TE, Edge.
Luter Jr. vs F/A vs 5th rounder?
DeleteI think that will be the likely situation - let Luter compete with a FA (or 2) and a day 2 or (more likely) 3 draft pick.
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ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas all
Merry Christmas Dave!
DeleteTyleik Williams, 3t, Ohio St., is a player to keep an eye on in round 2. Might not be the immediate impact in his rookie year but could be a force in year 2.
ReplyDeleteMichigan's DT Kenneth Grant is turning pro. Will he make a good prospect for the 49ers who are currently slated at #11 draft pick?
ReplyDeleteHe's certainly intriguing. Would provide the immovable 1T/2T they're currently missing, and has more juice than you'd expect for a guy his size so there's some potential as a pass rusher as well.
DeleteI do worry about his conditioning though. And how much of his success was helped by having Graham next to him (or vice versa, for that matter)?
Scooter
DeleteThose are good points. Many draft analysts have said that Grant seems to tire as the game progresses. I'm hoping that he falls to the 2nd rd, but that is more of a pipe dream.
They just signed Hennessey, C who played for the Falcons (2021) through 2025.
ReplyDeleteGood signing. I liked him coming out of Temple. Had a pretty good year as the Falcons starting center in 2021, but got a little lost in the shuffle in 2022 then injuries hit.
DeleteLet him compete for the center job, but with the hope he ends up the backup along the interior. Brendel won't be back.
Razor
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think the 9ers signed FA Matt Hennessy for 2 years?
he was injured and missed most of 2022 and all of 2023. He was
signed, then cut by the Eagles and returned to Atlanta on the PS.
At best he's on the 9ers PS and not going to compete for the 9ers
starting Center job.
He'll compete with Zakelj, Nugent, draft pick and whoever else they throw at the position. He did learn behind Alex Mack. If his knees are healthy he's perfect for the scheme.
DeleteImpressive performance by the Pitt freshman, Duggar at quarterback. Definitely following his career moving forward.
ReplyDeleteRazor
ReplyDeleteOK, you may be right...TBD? I'd like the 9ers to draft Jake Majors, Center, Texas and let him compete with Zakelj and Nugent....Give Majors a year and IMO, he'd be the 9ers starting Center...
I'd be happy with Majors in the 3rd/4th round, but I have a suspicion he may be valued higher by teams than he currently is on most mock draft boards.
DeleteNot really a good draft for centers.
DeleteAfter watching a few of the top OTs in this draft class I have come away scratching my head over current rankings.
ReplyDeleteBanks and Campbell are widely considered the top 2 OT prospects and to be frank I wouldn't draft either on day 1. Really wasn't impressed by either. Both struggle with speed and counters. Not well balanced. I'd avoid.
Milum is largely considered a riser and potential 3rd OT in the class, and while I think I prefer him to the first two, it's not by much and mainly just due to him having a nastier attitude. He has a lot of the same issues.
The guys I would consider are Simmons, Conerly and Membou. Imo they are the best athletes at the OT position in this draft and the most likely to be good. Simmons is the most "ready" so long as his knee is ok. Conerly needs more strength, while Membou is very young and needs the most work on technique.
I don't like this OT class as much as some do either. I'd let Foerster cook in round 3 again.
DeleteIf they could get Grey Zable, OT, North Dakota St. on day 3, with his experience in the scheme, could in theory allow McKivitz to move to LG.
ReplyDeleteI reckon McKivitz will be the RT again next year, based on what I've seen of the OT class. But they should still draft a guy to develop and potentially compete year 1.
DeleteI think the key will be upgrading the interior of the OL. Especially center, though also need a LG.
Conner Colby, OG, Iowa and Bryce Foster, C, Kansas are two day 3 three players I've got my eyes on.
DeleteI'll check them out.
DeleteI suspect come draft day there are going to be some irate 49ers fans again at the lack of high pick investment in the OL.
Razor / Scooter I agree with you on Bryce Foster, Kansas, but I'd play him at OG and as a back-up to Majors at Center.
DeleteAs of now, I have Majors as the 9ers 2nd third Rd draft pick, but as you point out he could move up draft boars...If so, I think he'd still be available at the 9ers 1st third Rd draft pick.
What I find humerous is the same ones complaining every year about not taking an OL high disregard the Niners philosophy articulated by Chris Foerster earlier this year! Either they are ill informed or "casuals" or they think they know better....
DeleteDraft Implications this game between SF vs Detroit:
ReplyDeleteAverage draft position;
- with a loss: 11.9
- with a win: 13.9
I think the Saints will defeat the Raiders and the 9ers lose to the Lions and Arizona. The 9ers will then move up to #10 in the 2025 draft.
DeleteIF they can get to pick 10 they'd get a legit shot at a day 1 starter.
DeleteHarold Fannin Jr., TE, Bowling Green isn't talked about much but what a game he had against Arkansas St. last night.
ReplyDeleteDarius Alexander, DL, Toledo illustrates the strength of the DL class in this draft. I fully expect the 49ers to double dip at the position early and late.
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ReplyDeleteASU RB Cam Skattebo
UConn RT Chase Lundt
Marshall EDGE Mike Green
ECU CB Shavon Revel
Indiana QB Kurtis Rourke
Good tape on these players.
Dylan Samson, RB, Tennessee & SEC Offensive Player of the Year/1,491 rushing yards and 22 TDs. I'd draft him just for his last name, lol. My favorite character from the bible.
ReplyDeleteRazor,
ReplyDeleteThanks for highlighting these prospects. I'll definitely check them out.
You're welcome.
DeleteRazor
ReplyDeleteA RB you can add to your list: Bhayshul Tuten, RB, Virginia Tech is a late day 3 draft pick: 5' 11" X 209, 40 = 4.32s. Rushing yards 1159, Rush avg 6.3 yards, Rush TD's 15.
Tuten has some traits that the NFL is going to love, others not too
much. The Good: contact balance, durability, and one cut and go vision as a runner. The not so good: Pass blocking.
He'll be at the Senior Bowl and the combine.
Lets keep an eye on him for sure.
DeleteYou'd have to go back to 12-3-23 to find the last regular season TD the Hyena allowed in coverage.
ReplyDeleteRB, Israel Abanikanda who the 49ers recently signed had respectable numbers in college (Pittsburgh). At 22yrs old, do you think he could be invited to TC next year?
ReplyDeleteMcKivitz out of practice today. Knee issues
ReplyDeleteI'm really anxious to see how Brock does in this game.
ReplyDeleteWith the Lions injuries on defense, BP should have a chance to get the ball to Kittle, Jennings and Deebo, if he shows up again...And the O-Line gives him enough time to find them? Has KS identified a RB healthy enough to run the ball?
ReplyDeleteScooter, you think the Niners will have any genuine interest in Dalman given he's an UFA next year?
ReplyDeleteYes I do razor. Though if it becomes a bidding war for him I think they'll step away.
DeleteHe's a good player, but not a great player.
Some draft mocks have Penn St. TE, Tyler Warren going in the 3rd. If he's there for the 49ers it's a no-brainer pick imo.
ReplyDeleteHe's the blocking TE they need to replace Woerner, something Saubert was never able to do.
DeleteYPA before Age 25 in NFL history:
ReplyDelete1. Purdy: 8.8
2. Patrick Mahomes: 8.5
3. Ben Roethlisberger: 8.3
4. Deshaun Watson: 8.1
5. Dan Marino: 8.0
A few good things that come from having a down season.
ReplyDelete#1 better draft slot.
#2 Much weaker schedule
#3 Hopefully far less Mon and Thurs. games. Which leads to better rest between games plus I love Sun. games
Personally I would have no games on Thursday for any team.
DeleteLaken Tomlinson will be a free agent in 2025. He would be a cheap pickup that could contend for LG. He has the experience with the 9ers system and had his best years, I believe, with us. Downside is that he is currently 32, but his cap hit for 24 with the Hawks was only $1.2M. Might be good to bring him in and let him compete at LG or pencil him in as a backup.
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DeleteI think he would be a great backup especially if he can play center. I am really hoping that KS/JL are done with cheap pick ups. No more C level FAs and no more Draft picks 4th round or later unless they are seen as 2 or 3 year projects. I want an O line that can run block like the 2019 line did. Anything less and I am afraid we won't be that much better than this year.
This years draft is quite interesting.
ReplyDeleteOL, DL and Edge are pretty Deep but the high end talent really isnt there. Additionally in regards to the OLine there isnt consissus on either the best OT's or in fact who is seen as an OT. Banks is ranked by many as a top OT but many see him more as a guard.
This brings about an interesting though excercise.
Given Brock's height should SF emulate the NO Saints when they protected Brees? By focussing more on guards and Centers it might allow Brock to better see the field and you utilize his mobility to help the OT's. A major advantage to building like this is that it should be cheaper than paying for OT talent and you can get those players after the first round.
Unfortunately this years Center Class is meh at best.
Anthony Belton, OT, North Carolina St., day 3 prospect that could outplay his draft position if he is able to shed the bad weight, improve footwork and balance issues.
DeleteWalter Football latest 1-3 rd mock draft picks.
ReplyDelete1. OT, Will Campbell, LSU.
2. DT, DeMonte Capehart, Clemson.
3. CB, Justin Walley, Minn.
Capehart would give them that run stuffing DT they've been missing.
DeleteYup. Either Edge or OL with the 3rd pick rather than CB for me.
DeleteThey can honestly go so many directions. Walley sounds very much like a 49er type CB, and they will have a vacancy at the #3 CB spot he can compete for.
DeleteMarcus Wehr, OL, Montana State day 3 sleeper with experience at LT, RT and OG. Since making the switch from DL to OL in 2022 he's allowed 0 sacks and 8 pressures.
ReplyDeleteWehr is the type of late round OL I would really like the 49ers to look at. Excellent athlete, albeit raw, that used his superior athleticism to dominate the FCS level. Let Foerster develop his technique.
DeleteCharles Grant is another FCS guy I am interested in seeing during the pre draft process. Senior Bowl is going to be a big litmus test for him.
DeleteChase Lundt, a guy you mentioned previously, is also a guy I am looking forward to seeing at the Senior Bowl.
DeleteDo we have enough OL that can play Monday night?
ReplyDeletePatchwork OL. Might have to play Kittle at OT.
DeleteFormer Birmingham Stallions OL and All-USFL selection Zack Johnson has signed with the 49ers to their practice squad.
ReplyDeleteWatching Darnold on TV today versus the Packers. Just one word to describe him, WOW!!!
ReplyDeleteHow did the Niners miss this, Old Coach? I just don't get it, just as I don't understand the level of support this blog still accords Lynch and Shanahan. This is 49ersUnderKSraBust
DeleteOldCoach
DeleteYes indeed!
* they're on record for consistently praising his performance while w the 49ers- they simply couldn't afford to keep him.
DeleteIt's been a difficult year for 9er fans, but we can take solace knowing the 9ers will never become the NFL laughing stock like this!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.yahoo.com/sports/ref-clete-blakeman-couldn-t-204113343.html
This is from Grant Cohn. Makes me angry, downrightangry, to see how the Niners have mismanaged so much over the near decade of Lynch/Shanahan management. And virtually everyone on this blog defends these clowns despite the overwhelming evidence that they both need to go. I just don't get it. This is 49ersUnderKSraBust
ReplyDeleteOFFENSE
QB: Patrick Mahomes (Solomon Thomas)
WR: A.J. Brown (Deebo Samuel)
WR: Terry McLaurin (Jalen Hurd)
WR: Puka Nacua (Robert Beal)
TE: Cade Otten (Danny Gray)
RB: Aaron Jones (Trent Taylor)
LT: Tristan Wirfs (Javon Kinlaw after trading down)
LG: Ben Powers (Mitch Wishnowsky)
C: Creed Humphrey (Aaron Banks)
RG: Quinn Meinerz (Trey Sermon)
RT: Penei Sewell (Trey Lance)
DEFENSE
DE: Trey Hendrickson (Ahkello Witherspoon)
DT: Vita Vea (Mike McGlinchey)
DT: Harrison Phillips (Tarvarius Moore)
DE: Josh Sweat (Kentavius Street)
LB: Ernest Jones (Ambry Thomas)
LB: Nakobe Dean (Drake Jackson)
LB: Henry To'oTo'o (Darrell Luter Jr.)
CB: Riq Woolen (Spencer Burford)
CB: Quintin Lake (Nick Zakelj)
SS: Budda Baker (Reuben Foster)
FS: Jessie Bates III (Dante Pettis)
I bet you could do the same thing with every team in the NFL. As me dear sainted Mother used to say hind site is 20/20
DeleteYep, 100% OC. Looks like "Anonymous" fell for the click bait.
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Deleteanony-mous (AKA 49Reasons), had an epiphany!
Grant Cohn makes him angry! And, he don't get it?
If I could hit the right lotto numbers I'd have property in Hawaii. But, like Shanahan and Lynch, I don't have a crystal ball that shows me the future.
DeleteReply to Anonymous ^
DeleteNOTE TO JL AND KS: Are you paying attention to this?
ReplyDelete* This could be an opportunity to trade Deebo for The 2022 NFL offensive rookie of the year?
* There's a reason for the Jets to move on. If Rodgers returns, WR Garrett Wilson could be looking for a way out! Via Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, Wilson could ask for a trade if Rodgers comes back. The 2022 NFL OROY, Wilson, is eligible for a new contract after the current season.
Rylie Mills is an intriguing DL option for the 49ers.
ReplyDeleteMills and Capehart would revitalize the 49ers D- interior for years to come. And both could be available with their picks.
DeleteAgreed. Norman-Lott is also very intriguing. He probably best meets the GTFO criteria they like in DL.
DeleteMills: A DT runs a 4.79s 40-yard dash, projects as a 5-technique that can pressure the QB. If his shuttle and 3 cone time are good at the
ReplyDeletecombine he could go in late 3rd to early 4th Rd? IMO, will need a year working with NFL coaching and working out in gym. Where do you see him being drafted?
I think he'll go late 2nd/ early 3rd.
DeleteScooter
ReplyDeleteAnother IOL draft prospect that would fit the 9ers system..Luke Kandra Cincinnati. Listed as an OG, but can play all 3 IOL positions.
Good find GEEP. I like the look of him.
DeletePurdy gets himself injured behind a makeshift offensive line while the Niners are losing by 12 points with less than two minutes to go in a game that means nothing, and KS, this blog persistently proclaims, is the guy that's going to take them to the promised land of football??? I mean, come on now. Eddie D would have already fired the guy. But Jed? Oh yes, Jed (and the York family). Why, they give him a ringing endorsement. What a clown show, this organization and team have become.
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