Saturday, July 31, 2021

(Over)Reacting to the first four days of training camp

Photo courtesy of 49ers.com 

By Scooter_McG

The first four days of training camp are in the books, and we have been getting some exciting and interesting news coming out of those practices. As expected, Jimmy G and Trey Lance have headlined the stories of camp so far, though there have been some other notable developments. 

Here is what has stood out to me from the reports on training camp over the past four days.

1. Trey Lance is looking good. Yes, there have been some rookie mistakes and some rookie moments, but so far everything sounds like it is very much trending the right direction for Lance and the 49ers. He's completed a number of downfield passes over the first four days of camp and seems far more willing to sling it to the intermedaite and deep areas than Jimmy G. From what I have read and heard it sounds like he has been showing everything you want to see from your future franchise QB through his first four days of NFL training camp - poise, good arm strength and accuracy, decision-making, pocket awareness, willingness to play within the structure of the offense, and willingness and ability to take chances downfield when the defense gives them the chance. On day 4, he also demonstrated his ability to extend plays by avoiding pressure and pick up yards with his legs. After practice on day 4, DeMeco Ryans acknowledged Lance's ability to move and run, combined with his play from the pocket, puts extra stress on the defence, which is exactly why Shanahan loved his skillset. 

2. Jimmy G has looked like Jimmy G. After a strong opening day, Jimmy G has reportedly seemed tentative and unwilling to take chances. Reports on days 2 and 3 were that Jimmy G barely threw the ball 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. On day 4 it sounds like he tried to be a bit more aggressive, but it resulted in indecision, some off target throws and turnovers. This is nothing new for Jimmy G - when he's confident he can look great, like he did Day 1. Other times he can struggle to operate an offense that asks him to push the ball further than 5 yards downfield. We know the 49ers can win games with Jimmy G at QB... but why settle for the inconsistency when you don't have to? The competition for the starting QB spot could heat up sooner than many had thought.

3. The defensive line is really deep, especially the interior of the DL. Pretty much all of the notable defensive tackles on the roster have looked good so far. The only exceptions have been those not practicing due to injury (Kinlaw and Hurst). And surprisingly the defensive ends have looked pretty good too, with both Ebukam and Key making plays, especially on days 3 and 4. With a healthy Bosa and Kinlaw, this unit could be very good. Even without them they may be surprisingly decent. But... practices so far have been without pads, which tends to favour the defensive line. We will know more once the pads go on. 

4. Mike McGlinchey looks back to his best. Slim Mike is now Big Mac once again, after adding 25 lbs this offseason, and through four days of camp the extra weight seems to really be helping. But as noted with the defensive line, we will know more once the pads go on.

5. Brandon Aiyuk and Deebo Samuel look really good. Both players have been the clear standouts among the receivers and favoured targets of the QBs. Even over George Kittle. Somewhat surprisingly, Deebo has been showing off a more rounded skillset, making plays at all three levels. 

6. The third WR spot may already have a favourite. The competition for the third WR spot was expected to be a hotly contested one, but it sounds like there may already be a leader in the clubhouse. Mo Sanu has received plenty of praise from both players and coaches, and could be in the box seat to grab that spot. The other player that seemed might be the main challenger after days 1 and 2 was Jalen Hurd, who based on reports sounded like he was moving very well coming back from his injuries, but he is now once again a big question mark after missing days 3 and 4. Hopefully it is only a minor setback for Hurd.

7. Marcell Harris is no longer a safety. The safety position looked like it may have a bit of a logjam, but turns out the 49ers have moved long time backup SS Harris to LB this offseason. And from all reports it sounds like he has looked pretty good. 

8. Talanoa Hufanga won't be outworked. Hufanga apparently has also seen some time at LB, though there hasn't been much else reported about his play on the field. However, one thing that has been noted is that Hufanga is routinely one of the first out to the practice field and one of the last to leave. That kind of work ethic is what gets late round picks onto a roster and onto the field early in their careers, and keeps them in the NFL. 

9. The running game has struggled. Again, worth pointing out that without pads the offensive line is at a disadvantage, but so far it sounds like bar a handful of explosive runs, the 49ers running game has struggled by and large, with many running plays being completely blown up by penetration. However, one guy that has had some positive reps is Elijah Mitchell, who reportedly has been more willing to test the middle of the defense. 

10. Verrett isn't resting on last year's success. Jason Verrett has had a couple of strong practices as he looks to build on his bounce back 2020 season. This has included an INT as well as multiple pass breakups. When healthy Verrett is clearly the team's best CB. 

11. CB depth is a concern. With Moseley on the COVID-19 reserve list, Tim Harris has been getting starting reps opposite Verrett. This has prompted the 49ers to look at some outside help with Dre Kirkpatrick brought in for a visit. I expect a veteran CB to be added sooner rather than later.   

29 comments:

  1. I really enjoyed Ryans' presser. Players are gonna continue to play hard under his leadership. Seemed to me he believes Verrett is a shut down cb who can play man to man against any receiver in the league. Been a long time since the 49ers had one of those. It'll be interesting to see which teams he does not game plan that type of coverage for.

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    1. Seattle WR DK Metcalf and Arizona DeAndra Hopkins

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    2. If Verrett can be a shut down CB at his cap number that is a steal. Even if he just plys like he did last season he's a bargain.

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  2. Love this report, Scooter!

    I for one, am not going to overreact. That said, I think as Lance continues to show how much he can add to Kyle's offense, the closer we will be to even money on Lance getting the nod to start on opening day.

    Trey Lance truly is the Prodigy! He seems destined for greatness, IMO!

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    1. Scooter
      As always, good writeup. I don't disagree, but will wait for the pads to come on before deciding who's starting against Detroit.
      Lance looks to be everything KS thought he was. I may be wrong but I still think JG starts against Detroit, It'd his job to lose.

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    2. Yeah, the more good practices that Lance puts up back to back the more pressure he puts on the coaching staff to open it up as a competition. And if it becomes a competition... I think JG may struggle to hold Lance off.

      But even if they just continue to stick with JG and not make it a competition, seeing Lance look the part and make nice strides in practice is a great sign for the 49ers future.

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    3. As Jacob Hutchinson, over at KNBR said, when the time comes, nobody on the 49ers will be surprised, because Lance just has "IT". And I always say .... that kind of talent is UNDENIABLE! And my thing is, the kind of talent Lance has, doesn't come along every day, or even every year for that matter. The players .... they know it when they see it. The coaches .... they know it when they see it. Things would be different if they had drafted Jones, because while there are differences in his skill set compared to Jimmy, those differences are much more subtle, only likely to show up at times on game day.

      But Trey, he's a different animal. Not only is his arm talent superior to Jimmy's, he's also bigger, and drastically more mobile. Apparently Trey decided to show off his legs on Saturday, and as soon as he did, it changed the entire narrative. This was my argument for drafting one of the more mobile QB's, because it's adds an entirely different dimension to Kyle offense. I am not just talking about the scrambling and/or off-schedule plays, I am talking about actual play design.

      Remember when it took the NFL a season to figure how to stop Kaepernick's Zone-Read? The defensive coordinators eventually figured out if linebackers and DLs just keyed on going after the QB without hesitation, they could contain the Zone-Read (some would call it Read-Option) much easier. Once they did that, and forced Kap into winning as a pocket passer, the rest was history.

      The way in which Lance's mobility will open up Kyle's zone rushing attack, has the potential to add a nearly unstoppable dynamic because it changes the numbers. Suddenly the rushing attack is truly 11 on 11. However, because Lance is a natural pocket passer, first and foremost (unlike Lamar Jackson) it changes the entire offense VS defense dynamic, and it's a dynamic Kyle is certainly eager to exploit early and often.

      I have a sense that Kyle would be content with leading the NFL in rushing this season (which he can do with Lance staring week one) because Kyle believes that using his rushing attack to control the clock is his strongest advantage as a play caller. Kyle always wants to control the football/clock, while also limiting potential interceptions, in part because he also believes fumbles are less likely to happen, and less likely to change the outcome of a game, compared to turnovers via interceptions. Trey doesn't need to know the playbook as well as Jimmy, to have that kind of affect. Lance is already a natural pocket passer, and with his legs, he can win now, while continuing to develop the rest of his game as it comes.

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    4. Plus, Run-Pass Option's as well!

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    5. Oh, Lance will make some rookie mistakes, but Jimmy still makes rookies mistakes, and he's a seasoned veteran.

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    6. 49Reasons
      When the pads are on, and Lance STOPS overthrowing his receivers, he'll be ready to start.

      *QB Coach McEvoy Explains How 49ers QB Trey Lance Can Fix His High Misses...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjIePVNrkWo

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  3. Let's talk about pre-snap motion. Kyle uses this more than any coach in the league. Yet, neither Jimmy, nor his backups exactly lit the world on fire in 2020 when using pre-snap motion.

    Trey Lance? The term I've heard to describe how well he plays with pre-snap motion, is "Thermonuclear!"

    In 2019, Lance was unstoppable while operating with pre-snap motion, and/or play action. And that's the thing. Trey knows this stuff. Most of the concepts they ran at ND State are similar, if not identical to the pre-snap motion (and/or Play Action) that Kyle loves to use. These aren't new concepts for the young prodigy. The only real difference being the caliber of players he's now playing with, and against.

    The more I consider the situation, the more convinced I am that Trey should be the opening day starter. I am extremely curious to see how Trey looks in preseason, but the thing is, Kyle will not be showing most of his bags of tricks during preseason.

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    1. *Correction: there is a difference in the way of terminology, but I think Trey can handle that part.

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  4. I'd love to get a 3rd or 4th in return for Jimmy, but I really don't care at this point. The cap savings creates in 2022 alone are worth releasing Jimmy before the season if they can't find a trade partner, IMO. This is Trey's team and they can win with Trey this season, IMO! Anyone buying into the charade of this still being Jimmy's team are fooling themselves, IMO. I'm not buying it!

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    1. 49Reasons
      Look at it this way:
      !) What ever the 9ers get for JG is frosting on the cake, the $26 Mil. salary is the big savings.
      2) Giving up the first round draft picks for Lance, also saves money that can be used to sign free agents in 2022 and 2323. So giving up the 1st Rd draft picks doesn't hurt the 9ers as much as some would lead you to believe.

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    2. That's a very good point, GEEP! I can't strongly disagree with you on that. They also save money with Trey on the backside, but we'll see how close to the cap they are next year, and whether it potentially ends up costing them a couple good, potentially valuable free agents.

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    3. But can we agree that holding onto Jimmy this year only makes sense if you truly believe he's better prepared to help you win, than Lance. A $25+M backup, doesn't make a lot of sense.

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    4. Or put it another way ... a "$25+M insurance policy"

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    5. I happen to believe Lance gives them the best chance to win, I am guessing a rookie QB is bound to win a SB some day, put in the right situation, and Kyle's love to steal souls by running the ball down opponents throats!

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    6. Of course, if Jimmy starts and takes them back to the SB, it will obviously be worth it, UNLESS we think Lance can take them just as far. The thing about Lance is that he has an uncanny ability to limit mistakes, and he already understands pro concepts. So what's the downside?

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  5. And by the way, I'm not even advocating for a lot of designed QB runs. It's having a legitimate threat of a dynamic runner at QB that is going to open up the offense. That means Trey will have to prove that he's a threat, he just doesn't need to run as much as Lamar Jackson, or Kyler Murray, because he's such a great player within the pocket, on play action, bootlegs, etc.

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  6. Sorry guys, but one more thing. Seems Kyle has learned from his major podcast screw up, and is now keeping things he says closer to the vest with the media.

    It's about time!

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    1. 49Reason
      RE KS podcast screwups (NOT)!
      IMO, you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
      If JG's ego is too weak to handle that, he DOESN"T belong in the NFL.

      Sorry dude, but only the big dogs make it to the NFL and those with strong ego's get to stay!
      NOTE: NFL = NOT FOR LONG...REMEMBER?

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  7. @Scooter: It's well established that Shanahan's playbook is difficult to learn. Do the first 4 days of training camp provide sufficient indication that Lance has achieved a level of competency with regards to the playbook? If not, I think Jimmy still has to be the favorite.

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    1. My understanding is they aren't running anything different, or anything more simplified, when Lance is getting reps. Just installing the offense. Sounds like Lance is handling the mental aspects of learning the offense well and it isn't impeding his ability to execute. And on Saturday they were able to add some extra components with Lance under centre to take advantage of his legs.

      This is what, for me, is so pleasing about what I am hearing and reading regarding Lance. Rookie QBs are often overwhelmed by the information overload that they can't process during the rep and look lost or robotic. That doesn't appear to be the case with Lance. Very encouraging.

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    2. Yes, that is very encouraging. But we won't really know until the bullets start to fly. Given that QBs are protected during practices, it would seem to me we will have to wait until the preseason games at a minimum.

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