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Tony Pauline on what he's hearing on, Lance falling out of the top 10: I couldn’t tell you what others are thinking, but I believe people who had him graded so highly in the early stages may finally be realizing Trey Lance will have to sit as a rookie in the NFL.
ReplyDeleteIf you selected Lance in the top 10, you are doing so with plans to insert him in the starting lineup quickly. That could lead to his ruin.
I always believed, Lance would need a year to sit. Sure would be nice if a team targeted him at #12, and made an offer, Shanny couldn't refuse.
IMO, I don't see Kyle drafting Lance even if he's available at 12.
DeleteI think it's a day 2 qb. If we're being honest, Shanny doesn't really like rookie qb's as his starter.
DeleteI think there's a good chance Kyle's fallen in love with Mac Jones and that he's our pick at 12 or even higher in a trade-up.
DeleteMac Jones 44 completed tight window throws compared to Joe Burrow’s 124 in 2019
DeleteHe doesn't. That's why he got Hoyer to tide thru 2017 and keep the seat warm for Cousins while training Beathard to be the future backup. At least, that seemed to me to have been the plan.
DeleteRazor, I hear you but Jones is Kyle's type of QB and the first of his type in this draft to be able to take the reins.
DeleteYeah, two QBs I am higher on than most are Jones and Lance. Jones for how cerebral a player he is, combined with willingness to push the ball downfield and throw players open. Lance for his overall mental make-up - highly intelligent, very hard worker, and poised. Not enough credit is given to what he did as a RS Freshman. He's by no means a polished player, but he is just a guy I believe in and has the right raw tools.
DeleteWhile I like Jones and think Shanahan could as well, I don't see Kyle drafting him that high. I think Kyle believes in his scheme and own abilities enough that he is unlikely to overdraft a qb with such limited abilities.
DeleteAs far as I can tell, Shanny wants a tough, accurate, mechanically sound quarterback that will run his offense on schedule. The system is greater than the quarterback. That's why I'm skeptical they draft a qb on day one, and are more likely to address it on day 2.
DeleteThat is pretty much how I see it as well Razor. This scares me a little bit though, as I wish I believed he was more willing to try and develop talent at the position.
DeleteThis is what I've been saying for some time now. He is not going to take a QB with a first round pick when he has a guy on the roster he knows he can with. Obviously the injuries are a problem, but he's not going to overreact to them and start all over because Garoppolo is the type of QB he likes running his system. He stands in there and gets the ball to his playmakers. Jones would probably fall into that definition too but I can't see him using the first round pick on a player that he'd be hoping wouldn't see the field. We should know what the plan is before the draft because if they sign a vet backup they likely aren't taking a QB at any point in the draft. If they are sitting there with JG and Rosen draft weekend, they are going to take a QB at some point.
DeleteI put this hypothetical question to, Matt Barrows:
DeleteRookie defensive coordinator + stud pass rusher coming off major injury = DE at pick No. 12? Am I right? — Gregg C.
Someone give Gregg a gold star sticker.
I have a question on cap space.
ReplyDeleteCutting Richburg pre-June 1 frees up $4.5 million as additional cap space. Post-June 1, the figure rises to $7.95 million. As I understand it, if he is cut post-June 1, then that cap space of almost $8 million is NOT available to sign free agents. However, wouldn't it be available to sign the draft class?
To be clear I mean sign free agents from March 17th through the end of May, which is the prime "season" for signing FAs.
Delete"However, wouldn't it be available to sign the draft class?"
DeleteYes. But they may not wait that long to sign rookies.
Richburg apparently underwent a hip surgery with no timetable to return. He has almost certainly played his last snap for the Niners as Razor has repeatedly asserted in the past. If he's a post-June 1 cut, those savings would likely go to Warner's extension which will come (like Kittle's) just before TC.
The Athletic has published it's latest mock draft. It has Niners taking Slater at 12.
ReplyDeleteMy 2 cents below.
First, all mock drafts should come with a link to the previous year's mock draft so the readers can evaluate how much these national writers know about specific franchise preferences. Last year, The Athletic had Niners drafting Ruggs and Ruiz. Niners fans would know that these choices were highly unlikely. Shanahan prefers tough receivers who run good routes for prodigious YACs -- Ruggs ain't that receiver. The Athletic did not even have Niners' second first round pick (Aiyuk) slotted in the first round.
Second, Shanahan will never draft a IOL in early rounds unless it's a unicorn center (he'd rather get a proven center in FA). For that reason, Niners will not draft Slater even if Williams leaves. Slater with his short arms is not a franchise LT. There are better value picks for stretch run tackles in the second round. Niners will likely trade down for a DE and get an extra day 2 pick. There will be teams who want to move up a few spots to snag a skill player at 12.
I mean, Staley was an end of the 1st (28th pick) LT and we all know he basically stepped in and locked the spot down for over a decade.
DeleteIf the Niners need to get a LT, move back, or move McG to LT (his college position last 2 years) and get a RT in the 2nd that can start.
Sure. If Williams leaves, I can see the ShanaLynch moving back from 12 to get their DE and then moving up into the end of the first round (or beginning of second) to snag a tackle. They made a similar move in the last draft.
DeleteI still think that is the likeliest scenario. Trade down a spot, take your DE for your first year DC, and protect your young, stud pass rusher in Bosa.
DeleteI'm still not completely sold on them taking an OL early. I still think there's a chance it'll be the same unit that ranked #1 in rushing, 25th in pressure rate given up and 9th overall as a unit, all per Pff. As long as they bring back, Williams the combination of continuity and Foerster have me more optimistic than most.
Mood, you sure seem certain that Slater can't be a top level OT. Personally I think his "short arms" are overblown. He's had no issues with them in college and has gone against some top DEs.
DeleteWhen I watch Slater what I see is a guy that has elite athleticism and pretty good technique. I would have no qualms taking him at 12 and giving him a shot at LT. If that doesn't work out as you hope, he can then move to the interior as a fallback.
I consider only the top 8-10 tackles in the league to be franchise tackles -- the ones the GM can plug in right away and forget about him for a decade or more. Not sure if Slater is one of those. Yeah, I am out on a limb in making such predictions considering how little I know about his play. But from that limited viewing and other reviews I have read he doesn't strike me as someone Kyle will want to pick at #12 in this draft, especially since I am pretty confident they will be able to sign Williams. I also don't see Kyle paying big money to a guard for the second contract as a result of the player not panning out at tackle. Paying big money to guards goes against their MO.
DeleteI don't know shit about analyzing OL, but imo Slater is the perfect type of OL for this offense and could play any position on it with his mobility and strength. I'd be surprised if they passed on him honestly. I suppose they could if they resign Williams but the value of this kid would be tough to ignore if he's sitting there at #12.
DeleteCrazy to see the PD site is dead, no action in basically 2 weeks.
ReplyDeleteeMJay,
DeleteThe last message I received from P.D. management said they do plan on reopening the 49er blog but have no timeline for it. So in the mean time Razor has built this great place where we can all come and share our BS
OC, Sharing our BS is a good way of putting it.
DeleteThe best part is we don't have to wade through 5,000 comments to share.
DeleteBoy, was that a drag.
DeleteThe way I see it, Williams is going to play football elsewhere. I think the Niners realize signing him really changes the make up of the team. Its much easier to replace one position then it is four positions. I see the Niners drafting a CB with their first pick to go along with the signing of Verrett. I understand the value of a dominate LT especially with a fragile QB but I think the writing is on the wall. Also they don't want to redo JG contract so I just don't see Williams signing without that happening.
ReplyDeleteI understand that thinking, but for mine if they don't re-sign Williams they will use that money saved on the secondary. I expect by the time the draft rolls up they will already have a starting secondary.
DeleteRosenthal is reporting, Williams will be the highest paid F/A this year. That probably means just north of $23 million.
DeleteHaving a starting secondary by draft day would be outstanding. The West is loaded with firepower, going to need a defense to stifle the attacks of Wilson, Stafford, Murray. The receivers for the most part are dynamic and several can be argued as top ten at their position.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it will be that hard to achieve. Moseley is an RFA, so they will likely retain him. I don't think Verrett will get any big money offers given his injury history and the cap constraints teams are working under. K'Wuan Williams may follow Saleh, but there are actually quite a lot of good options available in FA for slot CB. And there are also a lot of safeties on the market this year, which combined with the salary cap situation and recent history of safeties finding it difficult to land big money makes me think re-signing Tartt or replacing him with another safety won't be that difficult.
DeleteI keep forgetting to factor in the Saleh affect.
DeleteYeah, that will have an impact in terms of retaining some guys. The guys I think are likely to go to the Jets are K'Wuan Williams, Tartt and Blair. I know Saleh has been very vocal while he was the DC about liking all three guys. DJ Jones also a strong possibility imo. Sherman is also a possibility if he wants his experience and locker room presence.
DeleteThe interesting thing about it for me is that there are going to be a number of options on the FA market and when the smoke clears, there could be a starting secondary featuring some new names instead of their own FA's. We keep focusing on Williams, Verrett and Taart but the 49ers might find better options on the open market.
DeleteLooks as though, Trey Hendrickson is on, Saleh's radar.
ReplyDeleteNiners must of been reading you Scooter they just acquired a CB, Mark Fields off waivers. Not familiar with him at all.
ReplyDeleteLow risk, high reward. 4.37 speed.
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ReplyDeleteDianna Russini
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Just texted with an NFL head coach about the upcoming cuts and what he expects…
“It’s going to be a massacre next week all around the league”
Yep and teams with a lot of cap space (Jags, Jets) are going to be able to pickup some major talent. Saleh is in a good position. I'm not a big fan of his, but that doesn't mean I don't wish him well.
DeleteThat's right cubus. And as per my previous article re the 49ers cap, I think the 49ers can put themselves in a position to be reasonably active in FA as well, albeit likely largely looking at mostly bargain buys with maybe a couple of key additions/ retentions.
DeleteMore waiver wire than f/a?
DeleteFields obviously is, but I think they will be able to shop above that level with a few roster moves if they don't re-sign Williams.
DeleteI don't think it's as dire as it's being made out to be regarding the haves and havenots with cap space. There are only a handful of teams with a lot of cap room and they have traditionally not spent a lot on the open market (see Ballard, Chris). What's likely to happen is most teams will just push money into the future knowing the new TV deals are going to make the cap explode in the next couple of seasons. You don't want to lose a good player now knowing you will have a ton of surplus cap room in the next 2-3 years.
DeleteDon't know what people's thoughts are on Chris Simms and his ability to judge QB talent, but I respect his thoughts a lot. I thought his list was really interesting.
ReplyDeleteThe thing that really stood out for me though, which is what I have been saying for a while, is that this is just a really impressive QB group this year. Even Lance, who he had at 6, he was very complementary of and thinks is a first round talent - its just the lack of experience that really concerns him.
I haven't really spent much time watching Kellen Mond, I must admit. After seeing Simms' list I'm really looking forward to watching Tim Jenkins break him down. He might be a guy I should have been paying more attention to.
I understand that he was high on Justin Herbert last year.
DeleteGrant has a nice summary of Simms' comments on what he sees in each of the six.
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/chris-simms-quarterback-rankings-for-the-2021-nfl-draft
Found it interesting his has Wilson ahead of Lawrence, followed by Jones, then Mond, Fields, and Lance, in that order.
Yep, it's a good year to be in the market for a quarterback.
DeleteI was surprised he has, Jones in the top 10 and, Fields and, Lance below him. I've had Mond over, Trask. The 49ers should have options on day 2.
Simms has a pretty good track record regarding QBs in the draft, which is one the reasons I respect his takes. I watched the segment and he provided some interesting tidbits around what he likes and doesn't like about each, but it wasn't really a scouting film session so there is a little bit of context missing, unfortunately. Which is partly why I am keen to see Tim Jenkins break Mond down.
DeleteWilson/ Lawrence is interesting, but tbh I can't really comment. I haven't bothered watching Lawrence. I have him ahead of Wilson purely based on what other people say. Wilson is my #2 and Jones is my #3, and I don't have that much separation between the two. They are very different types of QBs and what makes them really good is very different, so it in some ways comes down to what you want out of your QB as to who you prefer for mine. After that I have Fields and Lance pretty much tied, but yeah, haven't really looked into Mond.
I respect his thought but still have Lawrence clearly above Wilson, his upside is just so much greater.
DeleteI think he oversells Wilson's arm talent by a mile. In terms of slots and off platform throws he's very impressive but Simms was comparing his arm to Mahomes and Rodgers in terms of strength and I think that is crazy. Those guys can throw the ball 50 yards flat footed and while Wilson can throw the ball 50 yards he's certainly not doing it flat footed. I think the strong arms in the NFL will throw the ball at least 10 yards further than Wilson.
Yes, I am nit picking but when comparting arms to the greatest arms in the NFL I think there is clear separation.
Shoup, I've had, Wilson's arm rated very highly. The ball velocity, rotation and the way it jumps out of his hand is special.
DeleteI think the class has been overrated because of need and the lack of experience but there is talent there. There just isn't a good track record in the league for QB's without a good number of College starts and this group is full of QB's that fall into that category.
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