Defensively the Cardinals came into the football game to stop the 49ers running game. They were consistently using six defensive lineman. Throwing lanes were abundant and Jimmy G let it fly. What should have been punishment for Joseph's defensive scheme turned into self inflicted wounds by coughing up the football. It was a tutorial on how to lose.
Since Shanny arrived, the 49ers have had the 2nd highest drop percentage at 6.4% and the 9th highest case of fumblitis percentage at 2.7%.
Defensively the 49ers rank 24th at -1.79 EPA/game. For perspective, the 2017 defense ranked 25th at -1.88 EPA/game. Factoring in personnel talent differential it's clear that Ryans is experiencing severe growing pains.
These two factors contributed to the 49ers offense getting behind the 8 ball and creating an untenable 45:10 pass to run ratio.
As if all that wasn't bad enough we find out The Glinch tore his quad which will require surgery. This is an injury that could potentially end his career.
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Tough for McGlinchey. If this involves the quadriceps tendon (where it attaches to the patella) this is very likely surgical. This is a tough operative injury to come back as only ~ 50% of NFL players RTP. If it's more the muscle (think DeMarcus Cousins), better prognosis.
OUCH! Matt Maiocco throws Shanahan and Lynch under the bus!
ReplyDelete"49ers' abysmal 2021 first half falls on Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch
https://sports.yahoo.com/49ers-abysmal-2021-first-half-191823970.html
Shanny threw himself under the bus first, Shanahan: "Failure of execution starts with me. So when plays don't work, no matter how it happens, it starts with the coaches. There's tons of things I can do better.”
DeleteRazor
DeleteDefine the difference between RHETORIC (paying lip service), and ACTION (kick a$$ and take names), that gets results!
It is a results league and I highly doubt it's just lip service. You don't think he's working his tail off for better results?
Delete"It is a results league" 9er "RESULTS" = 3W-5L.
DeleteAs they say, you are what your record says you are!
"You don't think he's working his tail off for better results?"
What I "THINK" is irrelevant! What's relevant, is If he is working his tail off, that makes it that much worse, because obviously is's NOT WORKING and calls into question his competence as a HC!
Definition of incompetence: Not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully. 3W-5L
2021 record, with the Rams this Sun = 3W-6L record. And losing record 5 out of 6 seasons.
How many games do you have to lose, to figure out... A) You need change what your doing, but you're too stubborn! or B) You're a great OC, but you're just not qualified to be a HC?
Definition of insanity: To continue doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
I think you're being a tad unreasonable. If you know someone who could do a better job I'm listening.
DeleteRazor
Delete" If you know someone who could do a better job I'm listening."
Now you're asking me to do Jed York's job?
OK Razor, so lets take a look at every assistant coach in the NFL. Here are several NFL assistance coaches that IMO deserve to be considered for an NFL HC job!
* Eric Bieniemy, offensive coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs.
* Arthur Smith, offensive coordinator, Tennessee Titans
* Raheem Morris, defensive coordinator, Atlanta Falcons
* Kris Richard, defensive backs coach, Atlanta Falcons
* Kellen Moore, offensive coordinator, Dallas Cowboys
* Press Taylor, passing game coordinator, Philadelphia Eagles
* Stephen Belichick, outside linebackers coach, New England Patriots
* Brian Daboll, offensive coordinator, Buffalo Bills
* Joe Brady, offensive coordinator, Carolina Panthers
* Greg Roman, offensive coordinator, Baltimore Ravens
* Duce Staley, assistant head coach/running backs, Philadelphia Eagles
* Teryl Austin, senior defenisve assistant/secondary, Pittsburgh Steelers
*Steve Spagnuolo, defensive coordinator, Kansas City Chiefs
Feel free to agree, or disagree. But if you disagree, explain why.
Greg Roman? Lmao!
DeleteBieniemy's shine isn't so shiny anymore.
Spags? Lmao no thanks!
Nah, I'll ride with Shanny until he flames out.
Arthur Smith would be a tough one to hire - he's already the HC of the Falcons.
DeleteShanahan isn't likely to be fired at the end of this season. but if they don't turn things around he will definitely be on the hot seat.
The problem with replacing Shanahan is, obviously, finding a better replacement. Based on history, it is highly likely that most of the guys you have listed, if they ever become HC's, will flame out. Finding the one(s) that will make it is very hard, but hey, that's the job.
My main concern though is that the 49ers are now invested in Lance. Changing head coach and offensive philosophy on him will only set him back further. I hate to say it but the team actually has to stick with Shanahan for at least another season imo. Just to let Lance get some continuity early in his career. If Shanahan was a disaster of an offensive mind it would be different, but regardless of the record there is no denying he is generally able to move the ball.
Could the Broncos be stupid enough to sack Fangio? If so, that's the fix!
DeleteRyans back to LB coach and Fangio as Shanny's DC>
DeleteIf the only criteria is wins and losses with no context allowed, then sure Shanahan and Lynch should be fired. Problem is if you take that mindset you are in danger of going through what the 49ers did before hiring Shanahan which was a string of Coaches and a lot of losing seasons.
DeleteOf all those coaches you listed all but two have never been a HC before (Arthur Smith is the HC in Atlanta now)so your complaints about Shanahan as a HC wouldn't necessarily be solved by hiring someone who has never done it before.
I'll just finish with this: Since Mariucci was fired almost two decades ago this team has hired 7 HC's and only two were able to put up a winning season (Harbaugh with 3 and Shanahan with 1). If they fire Shanahan what makes you think they are going to find somebody better?
Razor Correct me if I'm wrong, but you said " If you know someone who could do a better job I'm listening." So yes, I included HC on the list.
Delete* "Bieniemy's shine isn't so shiny anymore."
KC 2021 record = 5W-4L....49er 2021 record = 3W-5L
KC (Bieniemy) also beat KS and the 9ers in 2019 SB.
49er has had 4 out of 5 losing seasons....And working on their 5th losing season. KC, has six consecutive playoff seasons, and five consecutive division titles, with the team ultimately winning Super Bowl LIV.
NOTE: Bieniemy has been KC's OC since the 2018 season.
BUT HE'S NOT QUALIFIED TO BE THE 9ER HC? NOW THAT'S LAUGHABLE!
Didn't say he wasn't qualified but I wouldn't hire him over Shanny.
DeleteIf the team fires KS, I think the choice is a hotshot HC from the college ranks.
DeleteThis line of discussion is a waste of time. Shanny is in the second year of a 6-year contract. Jed's not firing him without a couple of seasons of developing Lance. Jed's not going to fire Lynch because Shanny and Lynch work well together. Shanny is still a young coach and a smart guy who will learn some lessons from this debacle. Fans have no option but to have patience why moaning and complaining, albeit rightfully.
Delete49ers' Kyle Shanahan 'extremely disappointed' by 31-17 loss to Cardinals
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's just me, but after listening to what KS had to
say, he sounds like a man in a state of denial. Like a man that can't quite come to grips with the fact his plan for the 9ers 2021 season IS NOT WORKING and it's as much his fault as the players and his coaches.
KS: “I’m obviously wrong, but I’m very surprised we didn’t play well today. I thought we had a great week of practice and I thought the guys were on it in the meetings all week, and I felt energy before the game. I was caught off guard by how we played.”
“It was extremely disappointing. I don’t think we tackled very well. I didn’t think we had 11 guys swarming to the ball enough. We made it pretty easy on those guys.”
Shanahan expressed confidence in defensive coordinator DeMeco Ryans. He said he would “probably not” consider any change at quarterback.
I don't think so. I think he's fully aware that changes need to be made, but really, what can he do? The plan for 2021 was a sound one, however where they failed was rolling the dice on Verrett/Ward. Two often injured players.
DeleteRazor
Delete" I think he's fully aware that changes need to be made, but really, what can he do?"
The question is not "WHAT CAN HE DO," the question is what should he have done, or put another way, what did he do wrong?
Who's responsible for drafting Banks and the other 2021 draft class setting on the bench?
Who's responsible for playing CB's KIRKPATRICK and Norman?
Ultimately, who's responsible for holding players accountable for discipline and not being prepared to play?
Shanahan:
Shanahan expressed confidence in defensive coordinator DeMeco Ryans. He said he would “probably not” consider any change at quarterback."
I REST MY CASE!
You can choose to be punctilious but it's just a waste of time.
DeleteResults are what needs to be the focus right now, and that's where the 49ers have been sorely lacking. I'm confident they'll figure it out.
Geep you are just airing grievances here. Drafting Banks and not playing Lance or the other rookies is not why we are losing ball games. They are struggling in some areas and making mistakes that are costing them games but some of those struggles and mistakes are being made by key veteran players that have a proven track record.
DeleteShanahan lets the position Coaches decide who plays most of the time. He's has said this numerous times so obviously they feel those guys are practicing the best and give them the best chance to win.
Shanahan is the HC and he's the one who's accountable but how do you know there is no discipline? How do you know the Coaching isn't getting them ready to play? A week ago everybody was happy about the performance in Chicago even with the defense struggling but this week the guys aren't ready to play and there's no discipline? Of course he's going to express confidence in Ryans. What good what it do to call him out in public? You may not like what Shanahan is doing but he's not an idiot. He knows the problems they are dealing with same as you and I do. He's just not going to air it out for public consumption which would be the wrong thing to do.
Notanexpert
Delete"Drafting Banks and not playing Lance or the other rookies is not why we are losing ball games."
Show me where I said it was! If you were paying attention, I was pointing out KS is responsible for drafting players, and the 2021 draft has been a failure SO FAR. That includes Banks who has yet to play a down. FACT: 2nd round picks are expected to start, or at least contribute as rookies and beat out the worst O-lineman on the team! Also, I didn't not say it, but it also points to the fact the 9ers could
have, or should have, drafted a CB in the 2nd Rd. not Banks.
As for Lance: Can you provide anything, other than your opinion, that Lance would NOT have done a better job than JG?
Just a reminder: I've said several times, that I do NOT think Lance should have been the starting QB. I did say KS should have given him 7-10 reps from game one and increased the number of reps and he and the offense demonstrated the ability to be successful.
"HOW DO I KNOW THERE IS NO DISCIPLINE." Leta start with the fact I can see! I have yet to see a game that has not had multiple penalties, dropped passes, missed assignments and more mental mistakes than I'd care to remember. In fact, there was a discussion on this blog, about the fact no 9er player had assumed the roll of calling out players who made mistakes and no one was being held accountable.
THE LATEST EXAMPLE(S): A) CB Norman being thrown out of a game and KS saying he would't get ride of him and he'll be starting against the Rams.
B) 9er CB Dre Kirkpatrick got trucked by Arizona RB Eno Benjamin, en route to a touchdown that put the Cardinals up 31-7.
So why don't you make the case why Norman should still be on the team, let alone starting. And why Kirkpatrick is OBVIOUSLY a better starting CB than
Deommodore Lenoir.
i'll be waiting for your answer!
I didn't say you did. I was just pointing out that your list of grievances isn't much of a factor in how the team is doing right now. It's way too early to judge the 2021 draft class and I'm sure you know this. If all these guys are still riding pine in the next year or two, I'll join you in trashing it but we are half way through their rookie year. Way too soon to freak out about it imo.
Delete-As for Lance: Can you provide anything, other than your opinion, that Lance would NOT have done a better job than JG?-
-Lance didn't look good in his start and has played one full season of football since High School.
-Garoppolo has played well in most of his starts
-Shanahan thinks Garoppolo gives them the best chance to win.
I don't disagree that he should get some snaps and I'm sure he will get a lot more if they reach a point where the playoffs aren't likely.
-"HOW DO I KNOW THERE IS NO DISCIPLINE." Leta start with the fact I can see! I have yet to see a game that has not had multiple penalties, dropped passes, missed assignments and more mental mistakes than I'd care to remember-
You just stated the same complaints every fan of every team makes especially when they aren't winning. What I try to do is see how my team compares to the rest of the league.
They are tied for 8th fewest penalties taken:
https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties.html
Middle of the pack in passes dropped:
http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232
Turnovers have been an issue no question. Niners have 14. Gotta get that cleaned up for sure.
https://www.footballdb.com/stats/turnovers.html?sort=givetot
So not overly undisciplined when compared to the rest of the league overall. A discussion on this blog is just that. It's not a verification of what is actually happening. It's attempts to figure out what might be happening. The Norman thing is being blown out of proportion and he wasn't thrown out of the game his position Coaches took him out. He was jawing with Klingsbury who described it as good natured banter. Hardly worth all the attention it's been getting. If you want to criticize Norman's play overall however, I am right there with you. He and Kirkpatrick are not playing well from what I can see but the Coaches still feel they are the best options so either they just don't like rookies or the rookies need to practice better to gain their confidence I would imagine.
"It's way too early to judge the 2021 draft class."
DeleteWRONG! It's NOT too early to JUDGE an OG taken in the 2nd Rd. that can't beat out Brunskill, the worst
O-lineman on the team. LET ME REPEAt, an O-lineman taken that early in the draft, is expected to be a starter. It's even worse, when the 9ers could / should have drafted a CB, rather than OG Banks. Instead, the 9ers (KS) signed Jason Verrett, who's injury prone and surprise, surprise, has a season ending injury! Do you consider this to be a wise decision and prudent use of 9er resources? I'm tired of hearing excuses for KS. 4 losing seasons out 5 and likely a 5th losing season out of 6, in 2021, is NOT what I call a success story.
"-Shanahan THINKS Garoppolo gives them the best chance to win. FACT: What KS thinks, has resulted in a 3W-5L season, soon to be a 3W06L season after the Rams game. Hardly a success story!
QUESTION: If you were the CEO of a major corporation, would you hire a top department manager who would be responsible for the success of both you and your company, but had nothing to show except failures, five out of six years?
The Norman thing is being blown out of proportion and he wasn't thrown out of the game his position Coaches
" A discussion on this blog is just that. It's not a verification of what is actually happening. It's attempts to figure out what might be happening.
And all those penalties, dropped passes, mental mistakes I THOUGHT I SAW, were just proof that I have
poor eye sight and didn't understand what I was seeing?
It's too early because we don't know how these guys are going to turn out. Banks could wind up starting at some point this year or next which is fine. Same with the young DB's. Sermon I don't know because it seems like he's fallen down the depth chart and has a young guy playing well as the starter. Whatever the case there is a lot of time to see whether these guys can play or not and it is far too early to judge them.
DeleteAs far as Shanahan goes I don't overreact. His first 3 years were about building a core roster and ascending which is what happened. Last year was a complete write off due to the number of injuries that wiped out a number of key starters so I don't count that as a negative against him especially when they were still competing with a roster missing so many good players. This year is the first time we can really look at this as a failure on his part which I agree it is. Where I disagree with you is in where it goes from here and how he is viewed right now. He is taking a lot of heat and social media is calling for his head but he isn't getting fired. Not just because he just signed an extension last year, but because Jed knew cycling through HC's as he did before was bad business and if you want to have long term success you have to have stability within the organization. He's had that for 4 years and into the 5th currently and while the results have been poor overall, there is still the fact that this team went to a SB and have been competitive up until this past Sunday. I don't like losing anymore than you do but there is a difference between getting blown out like they did Sunday and losing close one score games as they were before. When you see the team not competing anymore that is when you start to look at a change. If they play the rest of the season like they did on Sunday they would have to look at firing him but I'd be surprised to see that with the way this team has played for him previously.
I didn't say you were wrong on the last point. I said you are venting about the same things every fan of every team does. The 49ers are not taking more penalties than the rest of the league in fact they are taking less than 22 other teams. They aren't dropping an exorbitant amount of passes compared to the rest of the league either. They have the same issues every team in the league has. I don't see discipline problems. I see an offense still trying to find a consistent level of play and not protecting the football well enough and a defense that looks confused most of the time and not playing well at all. Whether that's Coaching, execution or trying to do much is the question, maybe all three but the game on Sunday was the first time I saw them not show up for a game. We'll see what happens moving forward.
I don't expect Moore or Banks to start in this game. I highly doubt Shanny wants to see Banks baptized by Donald, and Moore baptized by Miller. I'd look at the following week maybe for both players, but who knows.
ReplyDeletePut out the best player he has at the positions, he owes it to the team.
DeleteShanny did say that Banks has recently been pushing Brunskill, but he fared pretty well against Donald the last time they faced off.
DeleteStudying LT as a rookie late round pick seems daunting enough without asking him to make the switch over to RT against a player like Miller. History tells us Shanny doesn't like to weaken one position to fill another, but we'll see.
What is a SWING TACKLE: "Typically, a Swing Tackle is a backup tackle that can play on both the left and right sides of the OL"
DeleteAnd why do teams generally cross-train their backup OT? Because HISTORY has PROVEN that NFL OT's can effectively backup BOTH Tackle positions, which allows team's to maximize their 53 man roster.
And why is maximizing a 53 man roster so important? Because football is a violent sport and OT's aren't the only position where guys are susceptible to injuries. The more efficiently you can build a 53 man roster, the better chance a team has of navigating inevitable injuries.
Yet another example of Kyle Shanahan doing things differently (and ultimately less efficiently), because Kyle apparently thinks he's smarter than every other NFL GM/HC tandem who has managed an NFL team over the last 40 years.
My gosh is this guy exhausting! SMH!
Dudes a rookie. Let him get one position down before you ask him to switch. It's not an easy transition for a pro let alone a rook.
DeleteBeing a rookie is besides the point, IMO!
DeleteDon't you think a large percentage of NFL Swing Tackles are rookies Razor? Aren't a lot of these guys young and talented, but not yet deemed "experienced" enough to win the starting job at OT? Common sense says a lot of rookie OT's end up as Swing Tackles early in their careers, by the nature of the position.
Again, this is not a new concept! My gosh, Justin Skule had no problems holding down the Swing Tackle position as a ROOKIE, just 2 seasons ago:
KM - "Skule proved himself as a valuable Swing Tackle in the 49ers offense. The ROOKIE stepped in for Joe Staley and executed at a reasonable level, holding down the fort as the veteran left tackle tackle missed nine games while dealing with various ailments this season."
And I'm pretty sure Jaylon Moore has more natural talent than Skule. Moore is certainly the superior athlete, and much stronger than Skule!
Aren't you getting sick and tired of Kyle neglecting to develop his young players, Razor? The way I see it, this is one of Kyle's weaknesses that, over time, has had a detrimental effect on this football team.
In fact, it's one of the most glaring problems with this regime, IMO!
Razor, might I suggest that you, not recognizing Kyle's lack of development of his young players as being a real problem, is exactly what I meant when I suggested you might be a bit of a "HOMER" by nature, with some of you emotional assessments of ShanaLynch?
Delete155th pick? Lmao!
Delete155th pick? Lmao? JUSTIn SKULE was the 188th overall pick, Razor, and just 2 years ago he played better as a rookie than TOM fricken Compton! And Jaylon Moore is more talented than Justin Skule, SO DO THE MATH, Bro! This isn't rocket science! And novice football fan understands this concept:
DeleteSkule > Compton, and Moore > Skule
Can you work thru that equation, Razor?
Here's another one for you, Razor:
DeleteLenoir > Kirkpatrick
This one is even less complex!
Didn't you just prove my point? Skule played LT only.
DeleteYea, you don't know that for sure that Lenoir>Kirkpatrick. Too small of a sample size.
DeleteDo you recognize just how long the list of 49ERS Swing Tackles were, in fact, rookie SW/OT at some point early when they broke into the league?
DeleteOne of the reasons the 49ers are in their current mess, IMO, is not playing recent high level draft picks. Too many high draft picks are sitting in favor of veterans who are WAY past their primes! That's a problem both SHORT, and LONG TERM! When you don't develop your young higher level talent, the problem only gets longer over time.
DeleteIf I were a QB, I think I'd ride with the younger, stronger, more physically gifted Jaylon Moore, over a weakling like Tom Compton. I'm sorry, but his veteran status doesn't mean jack sh_t when he ends up getting knocked on his ASS! Am I right?
DeleteRegarding the rookie out of Notre Dame, Banks; it took him 8 weeks before he took over the starting og position for Kelly. Just a fyi for ya!
DeleteThere was a time when a young Dre Kirkpatrick was certainly the superior CB than a rookie Lenoir ... but that day is long past, dude! Have you not been watching Kirkpatrick absolutely embarrass this football team? Same with Norman, only not to the same degree.
DeleteThe thing is, Lenoir needs to develop, and I can't imagine he's worse than a completely washed up 32 year old CB who nobody wanted just 5 months ago!
I'm not talking about Banks, that separate subject. I'm wondering why JAYLON MOORE isn't ahead of TOM fricken COMPTON, who just might be the worst "swing" Tackle in the NFL! And when I say swing, I mean SWING & A MISS!
DeleteJaylon Moore can whoop Tom Compton, that I promise you!
Lenoir and Thomas will get their opportunities. Patience my man.
DeleteJaylon Moore looks like a keeper to me. I would never have him playing behind a Tom Compton level NFL OL if I were the coach! Compton doesn't even belong in the league, same goes for Kirkpatrick, BTW!
DeleteWhat the He_l is Kyle doing? Seriously!
Can we let Moore learn one position at a time my dude?
DeleteIs Kyle's band of coaches really that bad? I have to wonder. So many players development stall out under Kyle, for all kinds of reasons. I gotta say, Kyle is complex dude, I will say that.
DeleteThere are a lot of levels with Kyle, and he has some interesting relationships with his players, that's for sure.
Is that such a good thing for a HC - Potentially playing favorites, like Kyle seems to do on occasion?
I'm not so sure.
No Razor. If he a superior player to Compton, then you teach him early, and you play him. That's the history of the SWING TACKLE position! I don't think you quite understand what I am saying. Kyle should be playing the best player, if that means nothing more than cross-training a young OT early on. That's been happening in the NFL since the beginning of time, Razor.
DeleteYou can't afford to leave your QB's exposed behind a Tom Compton level player, when you have a superior OT on your roster! I DON'T CARE IF MOORE IS A ROOKIE, he needs to play over Tom Compton!
I think you're way out on that assumption limb. He's playing the player his offensive line coach feels gives them the best chance at success. If that's Moore, which I doubt for reasons I've already stated, then so be it. But favorites? C'mon man!
DeleteTom Compton was the worst player on the field this Sunday!
DeleteI hope you understand that, Razor.
And he's an OT!! It's kind of an important position, don't you think?
Not a Compton fan but PFF gave him 61.1. I don't wanna see him back out there, but you gotta go with Benton's recommendation.
DeleteTOM COMPTON just might be the worst OT in the NFL! You do understand this, right Razor?
DeleteHe's consistently among the very bottom of the barrel in terms of grading out at the position.
In other words, if Jaylon Moore isn't better than Compton, that's another indictment of the ShanaLynch regime! And that's part of the problem. Kyle shows NO confidence in his players, and completely derails some of them from a confidence level. Supposedly Lance has lost his confidence, at according the the regime (and Mike Silver).
A so called "playoff caliber team" cannot go into a season with TOM COMPTON as the primary backup RT! Can't do it!
I mean Kyle shows no confidence in most of his YOUNG players.
DeleteHe shows TOO much confidence in some of his veterans.
I like you Razor, but if I seem a little angry with you, it's because I don't think you are properly holding Kyle's feet to the fire .... still! That cause me frustration, because I feel like you are sort of making excuses for some of Kyle's most questionable actions and decisions.
DeleteSo I'm sorry, if I'm coming off to harshly, because I do think you are a knowledgeable guy, just still maybe a little too clouded, if you know what I mean.
FANDOM
DeleteI like Shanny better than the alternative. He'll find the answers. You'll see. If not, he'll be sacked in 2024.
DeleteSee, that's where we definitely diverge with our assessment.
DeleteI actually feel like Kyle's not going to find the answers until he's more open to making changes, and I have seen no signs that he's ready to start making significant changes. And the scariest part of this for me, moving forward, is that I don't have much confidence in Lance's development. Michael Silver is already reporting that Lance has lost his own confidence, and it seems to me that this seems to be happening to too many of the 49ers promising young players. I think it's Kyle's head coaching style that's the root of a lot of these problems, and I don't see that changes at this point.
Look, in some ways you are right to call me out when I vent over my frustrations with Garoppolo, because at this stage, Garoppolo is simply a product of much larger problems, and unfortunately it starts and stops with Kyle, IMO.
For example - it's not Jimmy's fault that he's a lame duck QB, that's on Kyle.
You know what should have happened on this Monday, Razor?
DeleteI should have woken up to reports that Josh Norman had been released. That apparently was never under consideration for Kyle, and that's a perfect example of people not being held accountable by Kyle.
Everything I wrote about during then first month of the season is playing out exactly as a predicted, and today I read this article:
Delete"The 49ers Season was Doomed from the Beginning",
and it's nearly verbatim from everything I've been blogging about since training camp!
The coaching staff didn't coach well and the players didn't play well.
ReplyDeleteEven the refs didn't officiate well, lol!
DeleteRazor
DeleteDid the refs fumble the ball?
Did the refs throw any INT's?
Did the refs allow any QB sacks, or hurries?
IS ANYONE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE?
Relax, it was a joke!
DeleteRazor
DeleteRelax? If I was any more relaxed, I'd be asleep...but that doesn't answer any questions, or solve any problems. Now if you want a joke, how bout them 9ers?
Cheap joke. Anyone can kick a team when they're down. It's easy.
DeleteRazor
DeleteWhen you spend several thousand dollars for season tickets on a 9er teams, advertised as a SB contender, you get the privilege of pointing out the fact you were sold a defective product.
Definition of privilege: A special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available to a particular person or group.
It's the NFL! Nothing promised or guaranteed.
Delete"When you spend several thousand dollars for season tickets on a 9er team, advertised as a SB contender, you get the privilege of pointing out the fact you were sold a defective product"
DeleteAbsolutely, positively, 100% true, GEEP! I couldn't agree more.
However, in Razor's defense - even though he tends to lean "HOMER" when it comes to the 49ers, he has stepped outside his fandom comfort-zone to criticize the ShanaLynch regime from time to time.
But yah, insinuating the 49ers have somehow been victimized by poor officiating more often than other teams, just doesn't cut it anymore, because poor officiating is a constant in the BNFL, and good teams find ways to win regardless of the officiating. The 49ers are often victims of poor officiating, not because they are being screwed over by poor officiating more often than other teams, but because they aren't good enough to overcome poor officiating. The fact of the matter is that GOOD TEAMS find ways to win in spite of the officials, while bad teams don't, and the 49ers ARE A BAD TEAM, because they are poorly coached, and woefully under-prepared on a weekly basis.
Don't spin. I never insinuated the 49ers woes were due to officiating.
DeleteGood grief, it seemed pretty obvious even at the time of the comment that razor was joking. Yowzer.
DeleteYes, 49er fans have a right to feel down and disappointed that their team isn't playing well. It's natural. But man, some people seem to take it as a personal affront.
It sucks the team is losing. It sucks the team keeps making the same mistakes over and over again. It sucks the team doesn't seem to have a coach that knows how to turn around the current issues. It sucks that team and fan expectations haven't been met.
However, I am pretty sure the team is not doing this to spite its fans. It isn't their intention to lose. Not really any use getting all worked up and angry about it, and lashing out at people on message boards that don't share the same enthusiasm for your righteous anger.
'Even the refs didn't play well..." -
DeleteI think that's a fair statement unless someone can explain to me what they decided when they flagged Kingsbury and Norman. Sure looked to me that they claimed the fouls happened in the opposite order than my lying eyes indicated. Not sure it makes a difference but it seemed like they sure thought so.
Besides, Geep if you've got thousands of dollars for season tickets I'd count my blessings while bitching.
ReplyDeleteFor your edification Razor: Definition of "bitching:"
DeleteWhen you use a specific word (bitching), you should understand what it means.
*excessive complaining without a specific reason and without the will to change something."
The specific reason is as I stated. Sold a defective product, advertised as a SB contender.
without the will to change something. I've made it
abundantly clear that KS needs to change.
FACT: feel free to point out anything I've posted that is not true.
You've got every right to be upset. I'm upset, but we still got a shot at the playoffs. Let's circle the wagons and put on a show against those Rams on Monday Night Football. You gonna be there?
DeleteYards/play (7th)
ReplyDeletePenalty yards lost (30th)
Scoring drive % (22nd)
Turnover % (26th)
3rd down % (30th)
Drop pass % (30th
DVOA…
ReplyDelete49ers offense: #6
49ers defense: #17
EPA/gm..
49ers offense: #15
49ers defense: #24
Around average offensively and putrid defensively.
Razor
DeleteAre you "BITCHING?"
Nah, just posting the numbers. They don't lie.
DeleteYEA, ME TOO! But you accused me of "BITCHING" which
DeleteI pointed out was a misnomer.
Maybe that was a poor choice of words, lol.
Delete"Maybe that was a poor choice of words, lol."
DeleteOK, In the spirt of a 9er fan I'll accept your explanation. But still not happy with wasting money on season tickets...and to be honest, it's not the money. It's the fact Shanahan is the HC, but he's too stubborn to accept the fact he's responsible for more than just designing the X and O's.
Relax GEEP we all are annoyed by Shanny's antics
ReplyDeleteRobber
DeleteIt's NOT KS "antics," or that I'm "annoyed!"
I find it unacceptable that no one, especially KS, is held accountable for repeated mistakes, penalties, dropped passes, missed tackles & bad habits that is ultimately responsible for the 9ers losing games.
KS says it's "a lack of execution," but that avoids the fact it's KS responsibility, not the players, for fixing problems. Also, JL is the GM and bears some responsibility for correcting problems.
If this is allowed to continue, it will become a pattern the younger players & rookies will come to accept as "normal" and eventually will becomes a cancer that destroys both the players and the 9er team!
As you point out, as 9er fans we've already been there and done that under a previous HC and GM.
How did that turn out? Well suffice it say they're no
longer part of the SF 49er organization and resulted in several years rebuilding the team!
"If this is allowed to continue, it will become a pattern the younger players & rookies will come to accept as "normal" and eventually will becomes a cancer that destroys both the players and the 9er team!"
DeleteI hate to say it, GEEP, but I am pretty sure this ship has already set sail!
First loss 17-10 against a Cardinals team with there best players 2nd loss 31-17 against Colt McCoy.
ReplyDeleteFirst game we could have one of Shanny had a better plan for Trey.
So why he keeps up with his BS that Jimmy G is much further than Trey cuz that is rubbish, Shanny should do what he told Lynch on the airplane about Trey./
Scooter, your boy OBJr is free and clear. You think there's mutual interest?
ReplyDeleteDoubt he wants to come here. I would be surprised if he signs more than a 1 year deal, and doubt he goes anywhere that isn't firmly in the playoff hunt.
DeletePackers would make the most sense to me.
DeleteOn a positive note Deebo leads all wr's in yac with 414 yards!
ReplyDeleteGood chance he goes over a 1000 yards on Monday night. He has the 2nd most receiving yards in the NFL on 49 catches. Can't imagine if he had Kupp receptions of 74...
DeleteBrian Renick makes a very interesting point.
ReplyDelete"The moves that Lynch and Shanahan have made since that Super Bowl loss speak loudly to their belief that, if they simply "run it back" with the majority of that team still intact, they should automatically be Super Bowl contenders."
"Every day you either get better, or you get worse. You never stay the same."
You never stay the same...
"Automatically"? I highly doubt that was their belief. More likely seems more plausible to me.
DeleteThat comment by Renick, a random football fan, makes no sense to me. In fact, the first moves that ShanaLynch made after the Super Bowl loss tells me exactly the opposite -- they moved on from two players that played important roles in the Super Bowl run -- one on offense (Sanders) and one on defense (Buck). I think ShanaLynch know enough football to understand that every year is a new campaign.
Delete@Mood:
DeleteSomehow moving on from two players "that played important roles in the SUPER bowl run" doesn't make sense to me.