By Scooter_McG
It was possibly the most anticipated 49ers preseason game of recent memory and we have now gotten to experience a 49ers game with the new QBOTF Trey Lance. And Lance didn't disappoint in the early going. His first drive tantalised with a very impressive strike that Aiyuk couldn't handle for what would have been a first down after Lance extended the play with his legs, and then Brunskill got steamrolled on third down giving Lance no chance. His second drive lasted just one play - a nice play action rollout to the left to get the defense moving that way, only to send a deep ball back to the right that travelled like a bullet 50 yards in the air and hit Sherfield in stride for the 80 yard TD.
Unfortunately Lance's day did not ever reach such heights again. His receivers and OL let him down numerous times, with a couple more dropped balls and plenty of busted blocks that led to drives stalling. There were a couple of passes Lance would like back, including two passes where only the power behind the ball prevented INTs as it appeared he was a tad late on the throws and didn't recognise defenders closing quickly. His work in the two minute drill was also less than stellar, as he missed some passes and his near INTs came during this period.
Lance would end the day with just 5 completions on 14 attempts, for 128 yards and the TD. However, with three blatant drops on well thrown and very catchable balls, plus another to James that looked like James may have been able to make a better play on, the stats did not do him justice. Nor did having two screens to Jennings called (correctly) as backward passes, which if they had been forward passes would have helped boost his stat line a little.
All in all it was a promising start for Lance, but also showed some of the key areas Lance needs to work on.
So what does this mean for Lance and the 49ers moving forward? Well, to be honest I don't think we learned anything from this game we hadn't already heard from training camp. And I don't think Lance's performance moved the needle either way as to how ready Shanahan may feel he is to supplant Jimmy G. Much to the chagrin and consternation of some, both here and elsewhere, the offense Shanahan ran was very vanilla. This though was by design. During the post game press conference Grant Cohn queried Shanahan on the way they kept Lance in the pocket and didn't include any designed runs, to which Shanahan (after pointing out the 80 yard TD was a rollout) outlined this was what they wanted to do in this game. No doubt this was as much about giving Lance reps doing the "standard" plays as it was about keeping some of the more exotic plays under wraps until the regular season.
In some respects this is the ultimate complement to where Lance is at mentally - Shanahan didn't feel the need to give Lance some layups or make things easy for him by installing a lot of plays that keep things simple by letting him use his athleticism. Rather, he wanted to challenge him and get him exposure to the areas he needs the most work, so that when he is called upon he is ready.
What Else Stood Out
While Lance was the focus of most people's attention, there were plenty of other takeaways from this game. Starting with the negatives, the offensive line was, well, offensive. Having rookie Jaylon Moore at LT and Jake Brendel at centre to start the game didn't help things early, though it was Brunskill that got steamrolled for the first sack. After McGlinchey, Tomlinson and Brunskill exited things got a whole lot worse. Reports during training camp were that the second string OL looked very poor, and this game did nothing to assuage those fears. Perhaps most disappointing was that Aaron Banks appeared to really struggle in pass protection. It doesn't look like he will be challenging for a starting spot any time soon.
With the OL being bullied it is no surprise then that the running game never really got going in the first half. The RBs were consistently being hit in the backfield or around the line of scrimmage. It wasn't until the second half against the Chiefs third and fourth stringers that the RBs started finding a bit more space.
The receivers didn't do much to help their QBs out either in this game. Aiyuk had an uncharacteristic drop on what would have been a nice gain (and Lance's first completion). But he was far from alone in this regard. And there were some lacklustre efforts aside from the drops. I thought both James and Benjamin in particular stood out for all the wrong reasons in this game, which from all reports has mirrored what they have done in training camp. On the positive side, Trent Sherfield continued his positive momentum out of camp into a strong cameo perfomance highlighted by his 80 yard TD. He has a lot more speed than I had realised and looks lock solid to be the 3rd or 4th WR this season. Jauan Jennings also had some positive moments.
On defense, the defensive line was less imposing than I had anticipated. While they played ok pretty much across the board I didn't see a lot of disruption and there were a few too many holes being opened up in the running game. Some of that also comes back to LBs not filling gaps properly. It should also be noted that none of the starting DL played in this game while the Chiefs entire starting OL played, so it stands to reason they maybe weren't as dominant as hoped.
At LB, while it appeared he missed a few assignments in the running game, Jonas Griffith was certainly very active and looked like he could be a decent backup. Even so, it didn't come as too much of a surprise to hear the 49ers added Mychal Kendricks after the game as without Warner the Chiefs found it a little too easy at times to find space up the middle.
The secondary was more effective than I anticipated, especially with so many starters missing. The rookies in particular impressed me, with Hufanga very active and making a number of 3rd down stops. Lenoir also had a strong showing, highlighted by his INT on a tipped ball, though his more impressive work was in giving the opposing WRs no room on his sideline.
Lastly, the special teams units were awful until late in the game. This has been an ongoing issue for the 49ers. Wishnowsky consistently struggled to either get enough hang time or enough depth in his punts, the coverage units as a result struggled to get down the field in time to make a stop, and the return game was poor. The 49ers need to figure this out.
Good breakdown, Scooter. I thought Hightower should have been on the hot seat last year. I think they're overdue to upgrade their special teams coach.
ReplyDeleteAgreed razor. Hopefully it doesn't bite them badly this season.
DeleteAnother great writeup Scooter.
ReplyDeleteTrey showed better accuracy than I expected which is a great sign, but on the negative side he could be deemed partially responsible for 3 of the 4 sacks, He appeared to miss wide open receivers underneath on 2 of the sacks and on the Jaylon Moore sack, taking a 4 step drop when your already in the shotgun essentially turned it into foot race between the OT and Edge.
These are learnable though, so I expect a fair amount of growth in the next month given what we have learned about him.
The Interior Oline is still a bit of a concern.
Lenore looks like a player who can add solid depth and Tua while slow, appears very instinctive... it will be interesting to see if that will be enough to make him a solid contributor.
I seem to recall a certain lb that was slow and short but had great instincts. Chris Borland.
DeleteThanks Shoup. Lance was pretty much as expected for me based on what we'd been hearing out of camp.
DeleteInterior OL is definitely still a concern. As is depth.
We're in agreement here.
DeleteHe can make all the throws, is athletic, and appears patient in the pocket. This was known when we drafted him.
Where do rookies like him struggle, making reads, and making quickly enough, under pressure, or knowing when to skip reads and go to their hot route. So what did we see here.
Did he go through progressions - Yes.
Did he do so patiently - Yes.
Did he do so fast enough - No.
Did he get to his hot reads under pressure - No.
These are things that he will need reps to learn.
Scooter, looks like we'll be using more 11 personnel this year with Lance as opposed to all the 21 personnel last year.
ReplyDeleteMaybe. I don't think they will change their personnel preference too drastically.
DeleteWhat stood out to this fan's, by no means expert, eyes.
ReplyDeleteGood
Hasty, Sherfield, Matthews, Lenoir, Webster, Jennings
So-So
Jimmy, Trey, Sermon
Bad
James, Gould, Wishnowsky, Aiyuk, Webb, entire OL, especially McGlinchey considering his starting bona fides
Trey's 80 yard TD: I've never seen a wobbler with that much velocity on it. The ball looked more yawing than spiraling.
ReplyDeleteYet it got there like a bullet and hit Sherfield in stride. Power arm.
DeleteYep even wobbling it got there in a hurry. Kid has an arm for sure. That was the same play they ran against the Packers two years ago that resulted in a JG TD pass to Kittle. It's a great play design that has now resulted in two wide open plays for TD's. We'll probably see it again down the the road.
DeleteNot the same play. Similar according to Jimmy but not the same.
DeleteYah, what did we learn about Lance last night?
ReplyDeleteWe learned that Trey, like every NFL QB, needs at least decent pass protection if he's going to be asked to operate from inside the pocket on most plays. Yes, for a mobile QB, he shows real promise as a pocket passer. But like any QB, if he's getting sacked 11 times in one game (he was on track to be sacked 11 times if he had played 4 QTRS), he's likely going to get rattled. Veteran QB's get rattled when they get pummeled in the pocket from the word go.
And what did we learn about Jimmy's from his 3 dink-and-dunk passes? What was the advantage of playing Jimmy at all, when all he's going to do is throw his passes within 3 yards of the OL, like he did last night?
I don't know if Kyle put any thought whatsoever into how he was going to get the most QB development out of tonight's preseason snaps. I understand hat Kyle hates the preseason, but his job now is to get his star QB acclimated into the pro's as quickly as possible without damaging his confidence or developing bad habits, like we started to see Trey do already tonight.
I think Shanahan got exactly what he wanted out of it. Snaps for Lance in a range of game situations and asking him to execute from the pocket. The stuff he needs to learn to be the srarter.
Delete"Yes, for a mobile QB, he shows real promise as a pocket passer. But like any QB, if he's getting sacked 11 times in one game (he was on track to be sacked 11 times if he had played 4 QTRS), he's likely going to get rattled. Veteran QB's get rattled when they get pummeled in the pocket from the word go."
DeleteFirst and foremost, good breakdown, Scooter.
49Reasons, while I agree in part with you're theory, I don't see Lance absorbing many sacks simply due to his outstanding running ability. What I saw in last night's game was a conserted effort by Shanahan and Lance staying in the pocket by design.
In regular season action Lance will be turned loose to pick his running moments as well as off-platform plays.
As Scooter stated, the 49ers offense was vanilla and will likely be like this for the next two games.
What I wanted to see from Lance was his response after a little frustration.
He came back with the 80 yrd TD after his poor first series. A drop by Aiyuk and a sack can be tough on a young rookie QB, but Trey showed good resilience on his next series. That was a big plus for me.
What did we learn?
ReplyDeleteThat we've got a problem at LG with no apparent "FIX!"
There are other concerns that need work, but the 9ers need to address the RG position, or the FO needs to sign a FA that can play the position.
of the 9ers O-Line
Correction "RG" not LG
DeleteBanks is getting criticized for the whiff he had but overall he actually held up pretty well until he was body slammed while pancaking somebody. That one play was bad obviously but the overall body of work was solid otherwise imo.
DeleteNotanexpert
DeleteAaron Banks could have used a big game Saturday to raise his stock in beating out Brunskill for the starting right guard spot. But it did't turn out too well. Banks was beaten in three of the six clips in the video above. Then his Saturday night was cut short when he injured his shoulder while getting a pancake block.
For a 2nd Rd pick Banks was drafted to become the 9ers starting RG...I'm afraid the video says otherwise!
Lets just agree that he has a LONG ways to go before becoming a starter. Unfortunately, Brunskill didn't do any better against KC Cris Jones and now he'll be out 2-3 weeks! Hopefully, Alex Mack would recognize the Chiefs sending the blitz.
So he's the question: With Brunskill injured and if Banks doesn't improve, who do the 9ers start at RG against the Lions?
https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/8/16/22625770/49ers-five-takeaways-chiefs-preseason-lance-offensive-line
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DeleteThanks for the link. I saw him get beat twice in those clips. There were both pretty similar which is why I forgot it happened twice lol. The others you can't pin on him getting beaten when a player has time to run around wide that is on the QB. The ball has to come out. He wasn't perfect but I thought he did a good job in the running game and got beat on the same move twice which he has to work on obviously.
DeleteGood detailed write-up, Scooter.
ReplyDeleteOverall, Lance looked really good to me. Better than I had expected. Great poise and generally playing with a feeling of comfort in directing the offense.
He showed many of the rookie issues that may be expected at this early stage of his career, e.g., holding on to the ball for too long, not feeling pressure in the pocket, retreating a greater distance into the pocket than needed, etc. He could perhaps also benefit from developing a more compact throwing motion.
The best thing is that the Scangs and McDaniel now have game tape on Lance in a variety of situations that they can work on. I expect he will look better next week against the Chargers.
Among the other rookies, Huff looked the best. He makes up for his lack of straight-line speed with great football instincts which he uses to take good angles. Also liked how Lenoir played as a boundary corner using the sidelines to his advantage. Once he gains confidence to turn his head to track the ball, he will be more effective in that position.
Thanks Mood.
DeleteNice Summary Scooter.
ReplyDeleteBased on what we've seen/read of Lance, he is gonna steadily improve the more reps he gets. Two 2 min-drills he got byefore half-time, will help him immensely.
O-line was horrendous....Is it just me or has Brunskill significantly deteriorated? Must be all the position switches. Enough already with Shon Coleman...same goes for Ritchie James & Travis Benjamin.
Players making a splash - Nsimba Webster...every time he touches the ball, he looks like he will make something happen. Hufanga and Lenoir also made nice plays.
Mugeek9er:
DeleteDon't forget to add WR Trent Sherfield in the players making a "SPLASH"...
He and Mohamed Sanu are looking like the WR #3 and #4
Of note to me was that Lance reverted back to his poor mechanics at times as Kyle mentioned in his presser. This is something they've been working on, but old habits die hard. This is another reason, a big reason why the kid needs reps.
ReplyDeleteThe Cover 0 sack should be a good learning experience for him. He didn't recognize the defense or didn't know to get rid of it in that situation. I think this is far easier to correct than his mechanical issues.
I read that Kyle had to repeat the plays to Lance a couple of times, but the playclock was never an issue. I'm looking at you, Kaep and Harbs.
Even with the 80 YD bomb, I thought another pass was his best ball, the Cracraft drop on the outside. That was a big boy throw, a throw that Jimmy can't make with any regularity.
I liked what I saw from Huf. Sermon looked like a short yardage back. Sherfield and Jennings are locks imo. Richie James is likely gone.
I've watched every snap at least 3 times now, and I get more angry Everytime I watch. Kyle Shanahan allowed the Chiefs DC - Steve Spagnolo, to b_tch-slap the 49ers young, franchise QB. Early on, Spags was able to use his starting DL vs mostly backup OL's, and he still dialed up pressure on nearly every snap. That's how easy Kyle made life for the Chiefs DC, and how miserably he made life for his prized young franchise rookie QB! Trey never had much of a chance, with the exception of about 3 okay calls. The Chiefs used multiple blitz packages against Lance, but Lance wasn't given the tools to beat the pressure, as he was relegated to sitting in the pocket, behind a sub-par OL, while Kyle called mostly long developing plays, before he established the run.
ReplyDeleteThat's why Kyle's playcalling got an F last night from me. Just because it's the first preseason game, doesn't mean you have to call plays that put your prized rookie franchise QB in bad situations, and basically set-up for failure. That's exactly the WRONG way to develop a young QB who hasn't played much real football at all over the past year and a half, IMO, and while I feel fortunate he didn't take a low shot in the pocket, or get hurt on any one of the unnecessary hits he suffered against the Chiefs biggest athletes.
It was UNNECESSARY and totally COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to put Trey Lance in the situation he was put in on Saturday night, IMO, and it was an EPIC FAILURE on Kyle's behalf that thankfuly didn't end in disaster!
C'mon you're Grant Cohn aren't you?
DeleteEither you're trolling us or you don't have a clue about what the preseason is for. It's not about making the kid look good or have him do the things he's most comfortable with. It's about seeing how he deals with adversity in a game situation when it's not controlled like a practice. He got sacked 4 times and 2 were unavoidable due to missed blocks right off the hop but two were questionable and were as much on him as the Oline as far as I could see. He drifted backward and sideways far too much instead of stepping up in the pocket and he had good protection at times while throwing poor passes. In other words he looked like a rookie is expected to look especially when he's played on game in two years.
I'm getting a good chuckle from reading all the comments from people saying Shanahan didn't use the kid right and didn't protect him blah blah blah. Meanwhile the same people have criticized Garoppolo repeatedly for everything while he's played behind some pretty poor pass protection. Lance is going to have to learn to play from a condensed pocket under pressure and no better way to do that then to have him get experience when the outcome doesn't matter.
Ahh, my old friend 49Reasons, A QUESTION FOR YOU!
DeleteQ: How do you anneal steel and make it HARS? That's right, you subject it to heat until it's red hot!
KS is doing just that, annealing the steel tip of his offensive LANCE!
**Make it HARD**
DeleteSometimes the best learning tool is adversity.
ReplyDeleteSure, it would have been nice for Lance to throw for 300 yrds, 3 TDs and have a brilliant passer rating. But this was a glorified practice game that allows the good to be separated from the bad.
Saturday's game was not about winning or losing. It was about which players make the 53 man roster.
Yup and you don't find that out by protecting young players who haven't been exposed to the speed and creativeness they will see regularly in the NFL.
DeleteNOTE TO 9ER JL, KS and 9er FO
ReplyDeleteFA OG Nick Easton is available. Cut by NO as a cap casualty, he's worth a look if you can negotiate a reasonable salary.
NOTE TO 9ER JL, KS and 9er FO
ReplyDeleteA 2nd option: See if the NYJ cut RG Greg Van Roten, after drafting USC OG Alijah Vera-Tucker in RD #1 with draft pick #14. If the Jets don't cut him, call Jets HC Robert Saleh and see if they can make a trade.
Vera-Tucker would be a good fit for the 9ers ZBS and has experience playing multiple O-Line positions.