Wednesday, March 31, 2021

Who will it be at 3?

By Scooter_McG

Unless the 49ers throw a significant curveball, the team will be drafting their QBOTF at pick #3 in the 2021 draft. This year’s QB class is widely considered to be excellent, with up to five QBs considered to have potential to be drafted in the top 10. 

Trevor Lawrence is all but locked in at pick #1 to the Jaguars and Urban Meyer, and conventional wisdom suggests the Jets will be taking Zach Wilson at #2. While nothing is set in stone and surprises could happen, it currently seems more likely than not that the 49ers will have their choice out of Justin Fields, Trey Lance and Mac Jones. However, we shouldn’t rule out the possibility of Wilson.

Today I am going to look at who I think the 49ers are targeting at #3.

Wherever Shanahan has coached he has looked for very specific traits in his QBs. Those traits have primarily been around accuracy, anticipation, ability to read defenses, identify matchups and go to the right progression quickly, decision making with the ball, being aggressive and decisive with the ball (yet not forcing it if it isn’t there, which goes back to the decision making), pocket movement skills and pocket awareness. Toughness and poise under pressure is also a must for a Shanahan QB. All traits that are based around playing from the pocket effectively.

In terms of physical traits, Dan Orlovsky (who played for Shanahan) gave some great insight when he outlined Kyle stresses two things in terms of athleticism – (1) a natural, fluid throwing motion and (2) upper body torque to be able throw accurately downfield without a strong, set base because you can't always set your feet in the NFL. Those are the two physical traits he stresses, and they again are based around playing from the pocket. In addition to the above, Shanahan likes to implement boot action and roll outs and his ideal QB thereby has the athleticism to not only move in the pocket but also out of the pocket and throw accurately down field on the move.

Now we all know that Shanahan has made comments in recent times that have alluded to his evaluation of QBs evolving and that the ability to extend plays and make plays off schedule are areas he sees a lot of value in. He has been very complementary of Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes, who are two of the best proponents of the young, athletic QB that can make any throw either stationary or on the move, and can pick you apart from the pocket or by extending plays when things break down.

While Shanahan’s evaluation of QBs may be evolving, it is important to understand the core of what he looks for is unlikely to have changed. He even said as much in the Monday press conference discussing the trade up to #3, where he laid out that if you were building the ideal QB they would be the “biggest, fastest, strongest and best QB from the pocket”. Being a great pocket QB is still the most important aspect for Shanahan. Having the athletic traits to move around, extend plays, and throw the ball 60+ yards downfield effortlessly are desirable additional traits.

Given the traits that Shanahan stresses in his QBs, and what he asks from his QBs, I find it hard to believe he will be enamoured by a QB that hasn’t consistently shown in college they can do what he will ask of them. Because of this I don’t believe Fields will be the 49ers pick. That’s not a knock against Fields – he is as gifted as any QB in the draft and may end up the guy. But when I watch Fields play I don’t see a guy that is consistently showcasing the skills that Shanahan will ask of him and it has a lot to do with the offense he played in. And in my eyes that makes him too big a projection for Shanahan to take this kind of risk on.

There has been a lot of talk in NFL circles the past few days that Mac Jones is the guy the 49ers traded up for. When I look at the traits that Shanahan has coveted in the past, and I look at Mac Jones, I see a guy that is in a similar mold to the QBs Shanahan has previously worked with. So I 100% can believe that he is a guy Shanahan really likes. However, I don’t believe he is the guy Shanahan really covets in this draft – I think there are two players that have a possibility of being available at #3 that offer skillsets that better match what Shanahan likes.

For mine, the 49ers trade up to #3 comes down to Wilson or Lance.

I think Wilson will have the edge, but is also the less likely to be available at #3. Wilson has shown the ability to work the pocket and the field vision to go through his progressions and find the right man with timing and accuracy. His passes have nice velocity and he can fit balls into tight windows. Wilson displays the easy arm talent to make any throw, accurately, from any platform and different arm angles. He’s aggressive with the ball, taking the shots that are there and he can get the ball out quickly and accurately without needing to set his feet. He also has the athleticism to run the boot action and rollouts effortlessly. He is also praised for his intelligence, recall and leadership qualities. In short, he has pretty much every trait Shanahan likes in a QB.

There are some concerns about the quality of the team around him relative to the competition and amount of pressure he faced in college, which are legitimate, but the same can pretty much be levelled at all of the top QBs in the draft. He dominated the level of competition he faced which is what you want to see.

As much as I think Wilson would be a great fit, he would be a great fit for the Jets for all the same reasons as their new OC is Shanahan disciple Mike LaFleur.

Trey Lance is an interesting case. He has far more limited experience than Wilson, only playing one season (plus one exhibition game last year). The level of competition he faced was by far the worst of the top 5 QBs, and he arguably played on a team that provided the greatest discrepancy in skill relative to their opponents. His receivers were often wide open and his offensive line was rarely stressed. He played in an offense where he wasn’t asked to pass the ball much. He also doesn’t have the same easy arm talent that Wilson displays, and his accuracy is far less consistent in part due to some mechanical issues he has.

Despite these negatives, when you look at what he does offer it becomes clear why, in my opinion, Shanahan will like him. The NDSU offense ran a lot of principles that are similar to what Shanahan employs, with zone schemes, lots of play action, lots of boot action, lots of pre-snap movement, and similar route combinations. At NDSU, unlike a lot of college QBs, Lance was tasked with running the offense pre-snap, including audibles and making adjustments to protections, rather than relying on the OC to instruct him as many college OCs do these days. There are a lot of reports that rave about Lance’s intelligence and command of the offense, diagnosing defenses and his understanding of how the offense is attacking a defense to get to the right play. His maturity, confidence, work ethic, desire and leadership are all considered to be very high level.

He also displays considerable poise and toughness as a QB. While he wasn’t pressured often, on the occasions he was under pressure he demonstrated his understanding of how to make subtle movements in the pocket to avoid pressure as well as a willingness to step up into the face of pressure and take a hit to deliver the ball. In terms of decision-making, Lance does a good job of avoiding putting the ball in harms way (only 1 INT in his college career) yet displayed a willingness to be aggressive and push the ball down the field with more than 16% of his passes (52 of 309 passes) going 20+ air yards, resulting in 13 TDs and his lone INT.

As a pocket passer, what he showed in 2019 was very advanced for a RS Freshman that was only 19 years old. The level of competition no doubt helped, but it is nevertheless impressive.

In addition to his pocket skills, he has a big arm and can make all the throws. And he quite possibly could be the most athletic of the QBs in this draft. He is a naturally gifted runner that is both fast and strong, with enough mobility and strength to either avoid would be tackles or break them. While his running ability is unlikely to be something Shanahan focuses on, the threat of being able to run is no doubt something he sees as having the potential to open up things downfield for the boot action and roll outs.

My expectation is that, come draft day, Trey Lance will be the new 49ers QBOTF. 

63 comments:

  1. Good stuff!

    Zach Wilson laser release and off platform is excellent stuff.

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    1. You hit a home run with this article, Scooter, brilliant stuff. The only place our opinions differ slightly is with Justin Fields. I am not finished with my evaluation of Lance, but I've done the homework on Fields, and as much as I like Lance, I am having a very hard time moving him ahead Fields as of today. However, I certainly haven't ruled it out.

      For me, Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence have been neck and neck since coming out of high school, and in that regard nothing has changed for me. If anything, I am even more impressed with those 2 guys with each passing day.

      That said, I can easily talk myself into anyone of these 3 QB's (assuming Lawrence goes #1), and I can easily envision Kyle helping either one of those guys to earn All-Pro honors while winning multiple Super Bowls.

      If I could magically take a trip into the future only to find out that Trey Lance ended up having the best NFL career out of all of these talented 2021 QB prospects, I wouldn't be surprised in the least. In fact, the only prospect who would truly surprise me in that regard is Mac Jones. I like Mac Jones as a prospect and I do think he could potentially have a very successful NFL career, but if we're talking superstar potential, or NFL All-Pro, I simply don't see it.

      The beauty of where ShanaLynch have set themselves up now is that I think there is so much elite level QB talent with superstar potential at the top of this draft, they almost can't screw this up even if they tried.

      However, I said "almost" for a reason. If Kyle overthinks this thing and goes with Mac Jones, all bets are off!

      GO NINERS!

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    2. Also, I keep hearing people refer to Lance as raw. I find it interesting that a common knock on all of these young QB prospects coming out of college these days is that most of them played in some form of a spread offense, and haven't operated under center, out of a true pro-style offense, calling audibles and understanding his protections. And here we have in Trey Lance, a guy who played in a very advanced, pro style offense. Lance may be a little raw in terms of the number of college starts (although I believe he has more starts than Mac Jones), but of all of the top prospects in this draft, he has the most experience running the very concepts, and doing the things Kyle's going to ask of his QB.

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    3. Lance has the biggest upside and he has as many starts as Jones, and almost as many as Fields.

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    4. 49reasons, I don't believe we do disagree on Fields. As I said in my article I believe he is as gifted as any QB in the draft and he could well be who they take. But what you said in your second comment about Lance is what I was referring to about Lance having shown the skills Shanahan will ask of his QB more so than Fields, and why I therefore think he is the more likely choice. Lance is less of a projection in this regard.

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    5. Yah, I gotcha Scooter. As usual, you are absolutely spot on.

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    6. You are spot on as well, Razor.

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    7. BTW, I'm hearing the buzz that Kyle really likes Mac, but his personnel guys are telling him Trey Lance is the high ceiling pick.

      If this stuff is true, I'm getting very nervous ... like sick to my stomach nervous, that just maybe Kyle will really go with the vanilla flavored safe pick over superstar potential.

      Yep, I'm nervous! Another month of this and I might have an ulcer!

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    8. I love hearing Kyle tell the media in regards to trading up to 3, "you gotta take risks", while the consensus among the media is that he's leaning towards taking the safest pick (vanilla). You have to wonder if he considers his man-crush - Kirk Cousins - to be a risk? Boy oh boy, the dykotomy of Kyle Shanahan's brain. I sure haven't figured this guy out yet. Simply brilliant in terms of NFL football X's and O's! As for Kyle "the risk taker"? Give me a break!

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  2. I am in agreement with this selection. Trey Lance is their target.

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  3. Accuracy concerns me. Can Lance really improve on it? It doesn't seem that Jimmy was able to improve his accuracy downfield. Although I guess Josh Allen was.

    I don't really know Lance. So maybe someone can answer this question for me. If Lance throws the ball hard, then I can see taking some speed off of the ball will help his accuracy. But if he doesn't, then I'm not sure how his accuracy will be improved. I guess his young age would allow for a change in mechanics, but we all know that a QB has a lot of things to think about when at the LOS and mechanics have to be automatic. Pressure generally results into reverting to old bad habits.

    I think I would prefer Mac Jones, although I don't like the 49ers moving up to #3 for him. But after listening to Mora yesterday, I'm beginning to think Wilson will in fact be available at #3, which would be the best outcome (unless the Jags and Jets let Lawrence fall).

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    1. Cubus, his accuracy can be inconsistent because his mechanics can let him down at times. It is something he should work on to improve (and apparently has been).

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  4. While I admit that I would be firmly against Lance at 3, he certainly has the upside and might be a fit.
    However, If SF does go that route, I think they should retain Jimmy for the remainder of his contract. 1st, I don't think there is anyway that Lance could be ready just yet. Assuming this, he would need to learn the offense that wont be as easy in a year with a zoom offseason. Second he will need to do this while trying to correct some mechanical flaws imo. Given this info, I think he would need 2 full seasons sitting, if SF wants to get the best out of him.

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    1. Why does he need so much more time than the other QBs? What is it about his game that suggests he can't pick up an offense or read defences as well as the others?

      This narrative he needs heaps of time to develop is one I simply do not get. He was asked to do more mentally in running the NDSU offense than the vast majority of college QBs and the offense uses a lot more pro concepts than the majority of college offenses. To me it is an extremely lazy narrative based solely on assuming a 1 year starter from a low level of competition can't be advanced in this regard.

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  5. So what it is sounding to me that Shanny and Lynch moved up in the draft to take what is left over from Jags and Jets pick. If they really identified their man would they still pick the same one if they were picking first. If not...

    I might warm up to this trade in a year or two but right now it doesn't thrill me unless they take Sewell at three and that's not happening.

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    1. UC, I don't think they had the ammo to get their top rated guy... but I can't see any way that pick is given up. Lawrence is that once in a decade top qb... ala Luck, Manning, Elway.
      So the pick would always be between the guys after him.

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    2. While I think they would take Wilson if available, they don't make this move if they didn't already have a guy in mind that they think is their guy. And probably like just as much as Wilson.

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  6. Good write up, Scooter. Lance is raw talent with good character and appears to be "teachable". Fields also has high upside. I don't know enough about either QBs to make any judgement. But either has a strong potential be an upgrade over Jimmy G. Still not a sure thing. The important thing is that the game has changed in the past five years to allows these athletic-but-"incomplete"-pocket-passing QBs to be successful.

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    1. Thanks Mood. I'd be happy with any of the top 5 tbh. I like things about all of them. Lance just seems like the guy that best fits to me, based on what he did at NDSU.

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  7. My two cents on this:

    -- You can't assume that Jimmy will go along with this, and they would be foolish to. He could easily demand to be released, especially if his agent sniffs out that Chicago and/or New England would welcome him with open arms, maybe even with a boost in compensation. Lynch saying this can work out should be taken with a grain of salt. Their only option now is to get the most for him they can and say goodbye.
    -- That said, there's no bridge QB imo, so whom they draft will have to be prepared to start the season. To me that means the risk is too great with Lance.
    -- Initially I was in for Jones. Now I think he'd be a foolish pick. If the Super Bowl taught them anything, it was they need mobility at the position. Just a couple of extra first downs in the fourth quarter and we would have won walking away. It would have been nice too if our QB had a stronger arm. I'm referring now about that final pass to Sanders.
    -- So who should it be then? Well, my perspective is limited because I've never seen Wilson play. But I've seen Fields play and on a very big stage, and I've seen him play with broken ribs, play admirably I might add. If Kyle thinks Wilson would translate better than Fields, I'd be foolish to think otherwise. But if in his mind there's a hair's difference between what they'd bring to his offense, then it's Fields. He's a hell of a football player.

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    1. Looks and sounds to me as if they're following the Chiefs, Smith/Mahomes model which is what I proposed they do back in February.

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    2. If JG refuses to report, which tbh I doubt he would do, the 49ers would bring in another bridge.

      But even so, as per my response to Shoup, I don't understand the narrative around Lance being too undeveloped to start as a rookie - at least any more so than any of the others. Based on what he was asked to do at NDSU I strongly disagree.

      Fields may be their choice. He's got all the talent in the world. But the OSU offense is very different to what Shanahan does - what makes you believe he would be any more ready than Lance to start as a rookie?

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    3. I either read that or forgot what you wrote. Sorry. Whom did you propose as the bridge?

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    4. Scooter, I saw that and of course think you probably know what you're talking about. If Kyle agrees with you, then so be it. Have to admit that Lance scares me due to his age, level of experience, and conference opposition. Fields might not be as talented, although I don't know that, but he's obviously loaded with talent, is fleet afoot, and has a huge arm.

      Btw, another great article, as usual!

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    5. I suppose there's Alex Smith, Bridgewater (maybe) and Minshew (maybe). Maybe a viable idea is now Carolina is interested in Garoppolo and willing to part with Bridgewater. I think Bridgewater would be fine for us.

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    6. Thanks George!

      I think if JG refuses to play the 49ers will trade for Darnold or Minshew.

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    7. IMO, Jimmy holding out makes no sense to any party whatsoever. He's going to make $26M on the fourth year of his five year contract in a proven offense which suits his skill-set and which he has had 3 seasons to learn. He can set himself up for his next contract elsewhere by balling out. Both Niners and his interests are very well aligned.

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  8. Scooter
    As usual, an excellent write up!
    I would only disagree with you on Fields. As my example of why I disagree, I would point to the Bills QB Josh Allen! He had the same knocks against him, as Fields does. And how is he regarded today? Well we both know the answer to that.
    Sitting behind JG for a year to learn, I believe, have the same results with Fields, except he's faster, just as tough and demonstrated the ability to compete against superior talent than Lance.

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    1. Thanks GEEP. As with 49reasons, I don't believe we actually do disagree on Fields.

      My reasoning for Lance over Fields comes down to Shanahan being able to see on tape the QB do the things he will ask of them consistently. Lance did that in the NDSU offense. The OSU offense is very different to what Shanahan does, so makes it more of a projection. But maybe that won't matter to Shanahan.

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    2. Scooter I agree with you, NDSU and Ohio St offenses are different IMO Shanahan has NOT yet made up his mind on Lance, or Fields. And unless he knows who the NYJ are taking, he has a month to decide.

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  9. Lance can throw from the pocket, and he can run. Hmmm...

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    1. Razor
      They can all do that, just one better than others.
      WHO'S THE ONE? Like beauty, it's in the eye of the
      beholder (Shanahan).
      And It's going to be a fun month before we know!

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    2. In terms of having demonstrated on film he can do all the things Shanahan will ask of him, I don't see any of the top 5 QBs that are ahead of Lance. Wilson maybe on par.

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    3. Scooter / Razor
      And the Antithesis to that argument is this! No one, not even Shanahan knows how Lance will react when a D EDGE rusher plants his butt in the turf a few times!
      FACT #1: The Step up from the competition Lance faced at NDSU (NCAA DIV 1), to the NFL isn't insignificant, yet no one has discussed it! I'm not saying he can't do it, or that I think drafting him would be a mistake...IT'S NOT.
      FACT #2: I know of no QB that's being pressured, let alone sacked by the defense, that does NOT see a drop in his accuracy and is more likely to throw INT's, Even Brady the GOAT! And, NDSU players were superior athletes to their opponents, which again made it easier for Lance to perform at a high level.
      it's like night and day to what he'll see in the NFL!
      In all of the discussions about who is the best 9er candidate, no one has really addressed the fact Lance is NOT TAKING ONE STEP UP, BUT TWO, to the NFL.
      Correct me if I'm wrong scooter, but you made the point that NFL fans are influenced by NFL gas bag Sports writers.

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    4. GEEP, Lance showed no fear in the pocket and a willingness to take hits on his way to 1,000+ yards rushing.

      Every single one of the top 5 QBs played on a team that was vastly superior to the majority of the opponents they faced.

      And coming from small schools just doesn't seem to be that big an issue, when you look at how many small school QBs have succeeded in the NFL.

      Yep, NFL fans are definitely influenced by what they read/ hear.

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    5. Scooter
      I hope you're NOT tell me that a QB getting pressured and sacked, won't affect their game?
      * "Lance showed no fear in the pocket and a willingness to take hits on his way to 1,000+ yards rushing." That's true. BUT, not by an NFL player that
      is bigger, faster and on two levels better than he's
      faced before and capable of putting him on IR. Again,
      I'm not saying he can't do it, just that until I see him do it against players in the NFL, no one knows how he'll react. Fields OTOH, took a hit that broke ribs, got up and threw 6 TD's against not only an SEC opponent, but Clemson, Trevor Lawrence's team. Respect is EARNED, not given!

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    6. GEEP, have you watched Lance? It isn't as if he never got pressured, never got hit. He was excellent with his poise when under pressure, and he took lots of big hits running the ball. He is a tough dude that has shown he can handle pressure.

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  10. Import note Lance had a chip on his shoulder after he was offered a scholarship as a S on his dreamcollege Minnesota but he refused and afterwards he was listed as a athlete, whats not what he expected.

    Also his knowledge of Defense is great cuz of the pre snap reads.
    His father actually played in the CFL on D.
    And this for a young man who is 20 YEARS young.
    A young man who has a LB mentality prepares like a pro and is beyond his years is music in the ears for Shanny.

    And Geep it was Josh Allen who had the same knock against him about accuracy as Lance.

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    1. Yeah, Minnesota wanted him to play linebacker, IIRC.

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    2. Robber
      Yea, I know! That why I made the point! Like Allen, Fields is NOT a finished product and to talk about those "KNOCKS" is likely irrelevant as it was with Allen! Given field time and coaching by NFL coaches, like Allen, he will improve. Will he become Elite? Who knows, ask me again in 3 years. What I do know, is this. Any one of the 5 top QB's will be an improvement to JG. Not because I'm down on JG, but because the QB they draft will be available on Sunday and not on IR! He'll also be playing on a Rookie contract (cheaper), and the 9ers will use the cap space to resign Nick Bosa and Fred Warner.

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  11. I keep hearing the names Mahomes and Allen as the new prototype QBs with their outstanding athleticism. Yet, it’s the old guard QB Tom Brady that has won 7 Super Bowls.
    Brady does not have the ability to go off platform to make plays and will never run away from a defensive player.
    But he has the intelligence to read every defense and the accuracy to locate his receiver.

    Although I was disappointed with Jones’ pro day performance, his body of work shows an overwhelming penchant for pin-point accuracy.
    If the oline gives him time he has to ability to thread the needle.
    If Shanahan is leaning towards an athletic QB, then it likely will be Lance.
    But if he wants a QB who can command the pocket, it’s Jones.

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  12. Trey Lance is also known for his command of the huddle AES

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  13. Regarding Lance, Seth Galina had Lance's QB coach on the PFF pod a bit over a month back and they discussed Lance and some other QBs. Youtube link below. Discussion on Lance starts around the 23 minute mark.

    The thing that really stood out to me, which I had already heard but not to this degree, was the amount that NDSU put on his plate. It was abnormal for the college game, and speaks to how much of an understanding he has of defenses as well as his own offense to get them in the right play. I already was high on Lance before this interview in February, but since the interview I haven't been able to get out of my head that this guy is just well ahead of most college QBs when it comes to maturity, intelligence, preparation, and understanding of the game. To me, those are traits that separate the great QBs from the rest. When you then add in the physical gifts I see a guy that has a real chance to be special, which is why I have been saying he is a guy I would bet on for a while.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2yBojYs5Z-c

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    1. Scooter
      Yea, I hear ya...BUT....How much of it do you believe is HYPE & Spin? This time a year, as we all know, all the so called "EXPERTS" haVE an agenda and the echo chamber is running full blast.
      As I've said before, I doubt even Shanahan knows who he'll draft and he has a month to decide.

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    2. What you see on film backs this up GEEP. Plus, this isn't just one guy saying nice things about him. There are plenty of reports that outline similar things.

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    3. Scooter
      As of today, if I listen to the talking heads, some of them are for Fields and some for Lance...Take your pick. They all most all agree that Lawrence is #1, but then there's the JAX Baalke factor. Most also agree that NYJ will take Wilson, but they could decide
      to stay with Sam Darnold? Who Knows? The way I see it, Shanahan could take either Fields or Lance and I'd
      be happy. But then again, the unexpected could happen and the 9ers could draft anyone of the five and all the hype was a waste of breath. Still, it's fun to do, that's why were all here, to discuss our OPINION and that's all it is...OPINIONS. ME, I'm going to enjoy the ride no matter which QB Shanahan picks and Goodell announces on draft night. I hope you, Robber, Razor and all the rest of the 9er fans do the same!
      LETS PLAY SOME FOOTBALL!

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    4. Yeah, as I have said previously, I'd honestly be happy with any of the consensus top 5 QBs in this draft. I like them all. Realistically some of these guys won't work out, whether it be due to talent, work ethic/ off field stuff, situation, injury or some combination of these. But when I compare this class to other draft classes it's about as good as any I have seen.

      While I am talking up Lance a lot in this article and comments, that's just based on what I feel about the player, how he fits the 49ers, and responding to some of the criticism he receives that I believe is unwarranted. I could do the same for any of the top 5 QBs.

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  14. Interesting take by Todd McShay,

    "I think they plan on starting Jimmy Garoppolo early in the season and developing whichever quarterback it is," McShay said Thursday morning on ESPN's Get Up! "Both Mac Jones and Trey Lance only started 17 games in college, so there's going to be a learning curve for these guys.

    "Now, Mac Jones did it in the SEC versus Trey Lance, who played in the FCS at North Dakota State. But Mac Jones, from an intelligence standpoint, sitting down and talking to him multiple times this year, I've been blown away by what he can take in.”

    You can find the rest of McShay’ comments on 49ersWebzone.

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  15. 49Reasons alluded to this above, but here's some more detail:

    49ers have internal conflict about selecting Mac Jones third overall

    According to insider Dan Patrick, his sources are telling him there's a house divided when it comes to the 49ers and a Jones selection. Per Patrick's sources, San Francisco head coach Kyle Shanahan loves Jones and wants the team to take him at No. 3. However, there are multiple guys inside the 49ers building that are hoping to change his mind into thinking that Trey Lance would be the wiser decision.

    So, the San Francisco head coach wants Jones, but members of the personnel department think Lance should be the selection instead? That's quite the issue here. With that said, it's becoming more and more clear that San Francisco is focused on the two signal-callers entering the draft.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/49ers-have-internal-conflict-about-selecting-mac-jones-third-overall/ar-BB1fdBis?li=BBnbfcL

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    1. At this time of year that could all be 100% utter smokescreen. However, this is pretty much along the lines of what I have been saying in terms of the players I think they would like. Assuming Wilson is taken by the Jets, then Lance and Jones are the two guys I think most likely to be taken by the 49ers. Jones 100% fits the type of player Shanahan has preferred in the past, while Lance provides a more athletic version of that. Fascinating month ahead.

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    2. I don't believe a word of this supposed rift. The ShanaLynch regime is air-tight with their internal deliberations and discussions. If national press is dutifully inhaling the smoke the Niners are releasing, good for them.

      I have a tough time believing that ShanaLynch are giving up two future first round picks to draft the McCorkle just because the latter is a higher-achieving version of Cousins.

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  16. If we select Jones than we have the same issues like the 2005 draft when
    we took the wrong qb.

    Choosing between a sort of Matt Ryan,/Derek Carr QB VS a sort of Josh Allen/Cam Newton QB looks like a easy call for me.

    Wasnt Shanny the one who really wanted Joe Williams/Dante Pettis and Beathard?

    Good luck with that.

    I lay my eggs in the bucket of John Lynch/Adam Peters and hope McDaniel and Scangarello are also on this bucket.

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  17. The 19-year old Jones was arrested at 2:14 a.m. Jones was involved in a car accident with another vehicle and then failed a field sobriety test after police officers discovered that he was intoxicated, said Tuscaloosa Police Department spokesperson Teena Richardson.


    No one was injured in the car accident.

    Officers also found that Jones was in possession of a fake identification, according to Richardson.

    The year Trey Lance won it with the Bisons.

    Another example that Lance is beyond his years cuz at 19y old he was already calling protections and processing pre Read snaps.
    He is bigger mentally than Jones.

    No way you pass on Lance for Jones.

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    1. Robber
      * "He is bigger mentally than Jones." (Trey lance)
      Robber, can you tell us what degree Lance graduated from NDSU with? I can't seem to find it.
      BTW: Mac jones graduated from Alabama with both a
      Bachelors and Masters degree in THREE YEARS.
      * Irrational exuberance for Lance, on your part?
      Take a deep breath and enjoy the ride bro, it's all good.

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    2. Im not talking about degree just saying that Lance at 19y old won a BCS championship and that Jones got arrested for DUI and fake ID at the age of 19,that's why he's more mature.

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    3. Yes, at 19 Lance was more mature than Jones. But everything I have read indicates that over the past couple of years Jones matured greatly.

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  18. Nice Kyle Posey article this morning about Jones vs. Lance.

    https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/4/2/22363917/graziano-i-cant-rule-out-trey-lance-as-a-possibility-at-no-3-for-the-49ers

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    1. George
      I would only point to Mac Jones's pro day work out to dispel some of the media hype for him. I don't know that he hurt himself that much, but it sure as hell didn't help him! And it raised questions about ability to make and his accuracy on deep throws.
      BB shaking his head after one bad miss, set the tone for his effort.

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  19. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH: The top 7 quarterbacks in the 2021 NFL draft class, ranked....One more talking head's "OPINION!"
    https://sports.yahoo.com/top-7-quarterbacks-2021-nfl-135130266.html

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  20. MM article today about dissension between Lynch and Shanahan about whom to pick:

    https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/nfl-rumors-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-disagree-qb-draft-no-3

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  21. Dee Ford working to return for 49ers in 2021 NFL season: * While I don't think it will happen, it would be nice if Ford can contribute by the end of the 2020 season and if the 9ers can make the playoffs.

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    1. https://www.al.com/sports/2021/04/dee-ford-working-to-return-for-49ers-in-2021-nfl-season.html

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